whether its nationalism or religion(an RSS version that insists on the
Aryan invasion theory!) or imperialism (eg Macaulay). I guess I just
don't want to take history for granted
there is never such a thing as an innocent reading anyway. the point is how rigorously do we remain aware of *our* own guilt?
On 2/23/06, Radhika, Y. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
hi, Indrajit..no offence taken as didn't detect any insult just
oversimplification;-) I wasn't saying that I espouse the idea of
nation state being perpetuated thru history-simply that it is being
used for that. also i can't believe that you think its an idea that
has lost currency!!! just check history books in desh, US, UK, etc ad
nauseum.
in a way it doesn't really matter - histories always have a lens
whether its nationalism or religion(an RSS version that insists on the
Aryan invasion theory!) or imperialism (eg Macaulay). I guess I just
don't want to take history for granted.
2006/2/22, Indrajit Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Leave aside for a moment what is seen by specific social and economic groups
> as the lunatic fringe elements described as Anarchists. Leave aside the
> Marxian analysis. Without going into serious detail on a meeting- and
> communication-heavy day at work, I put to you the case that the nation
> states are willing themselves out of existence. Think WTO, EU, ASEAN, ad
> nauseam ad infinitum.
>
> Who are we to interfere with this euthanasia?
>
> No shuriken, BTW, just puzzlement at a view being expressed which I thought
> had died out of serious consideration in the first half of the previous
> century, if not the second half of the one before. Nothing personal,
> Radhika.
>
> Udhay Shankar N <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Indrajit Gupta wrote: [ on 10:15 AM 2/23/2006 ]
>
> >I am completely bewildered. Why would anyone want to keep alive the
> >idea of the nation state? Are you serious?
>
> On the offchance that you're serious (shuriken?) -
>
> Leaving aside for the moment the issue of "Why would anyone want to
> keep alive the idea of the nation state", it would seem to be
> inarguable that there *do* exist various parties who *do* want to do
> precisely this.
>
> In this context, Radhika's comment makes sense, to me at least.
>
> Udhay
>
> >"Radhika, Y." wrote:
> >absolutely...how can you keep alive the idea of the nation state
> >without teaching the young about the struggle and the idea of invasion
> >whether by trade or military? Here i am not casting a value judgement
> >on whether that is good or bad but am merely arguing that history has
> >a political agenda as well as other agendas.
>
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