On Wednesday 18 Jul 2007 8:55 pm, ashok _ wrote:
> I dont get the hindu connection ? how does "being more hindu" prevent you
> from crapping on the road...? what about all the people who dont want to be
> hindu, would they be more likely to crap on the road?   this is a clear
> problem of civic sense, lack of facilities and too many people.

I am not surprised that you have not got the connection. You might want to 
re-read what I have written.

Hindu social stratification makes us (you included) cheerfully accept the 
presence of itinerant workers who have no place to crap other than the road. 
They may be working on your own house, but you will not allow them to crap in 
your toilet if such is available.  We want their labor, we are not interested 
in providing facilities for them to crap, or facilities for their children  
to study. 

We then  fail to recognise that  our own Hinduness accepts this social 
discrimination, with you on top and the laborer or "housemaid" below and 
equally fail to see the connection between our Hinduness and people crapping 
on the road. This is blamed on lack of "civic sense". On whose part, I ask? 

The behavior of Indian society, despite vehement denials is very very Hindu. 
You deny that and you are denying some of the deepest reasons for rot in 
Indian society. There is a tendency to blame the RSS for claiming that there 
are a lot of Hindus in India, and there is a pretence that Hinduism does not 
exist in that way. Oh yes it does. If the RSS highlights what is convenient 
to them, you are probably denying all that is inconvenient to you. Why 
pretend that you are the product of some very modern and liberal thinking?
You are not. You are a product of a very conservative Hindu society that 
teaches you to see the world in a particular way. 

Hinduism is only partly about religion. It is also deeply about social 
stratification, social insulation and pooling, elitism and discrimination - 
all of which exist among us but are denied by the very people who are born 
and educated by that system, and continue to allow the system to work that way 
while they claim to be somehow "more modern" and less fundamentalist than the 
RSS. That is a joke. Just look at what your relatives and friends are doing. 
Blaming the RSS is a bogey that takes the attention off the real Hindu.

We Hindus use and like all the benefits of the system while we claim not to 
represent those parts of the same system that we can afford to disown. By 
denying that we are  Hindus, and feigning modernity we can shrug off 
responsibility for social ills that exist in Hindu society and blame someone 
else. What a con job.

shiv






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