I have an aunt that keeps insisting the ancient Indians had everything from
aircraft (pushpaka vimanam) to nukes (brahmastra). She would be in good
company with this guy


> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
> Of Namitha Jagadeesh
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:25 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [silk] Fwd: The lesser known aspects of kAmasutra and
> panchatantra
> 
> Jace, BCB6 just got interesting. :)
> 
> On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Kiran Jonnalagadda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > No comment. Make your own opinion.
> >
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > > From: Balarama Varanasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Date: 12 April 2008 12:45:16 PM GMT+05:30
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: [BCB] The lesser known aspects of kAmasutra and
> > > panchatantra
> > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > > Hi friends:
> > >
> > >  Important thing about Kama Sutra, other than being a treatise on
> human
> > > sexuality is that it is snapshot from the Knowledge Society, when
> India was
> > > the most developed nation on the planet, when all countries looked
> up to
> > > India with much owe compared to how we look at America now. As
> couple of
> > > friends have shown interst, I am copying the four-page text I have
> sent
> > > earlier as an attachment into the email itself.
> > >  ------------------------------------------------
> > >  Demystifying Cultural Wisdom of Ancient India
> > >
> > >  Importance of Kama Sutra, which has nothing to do with sex at all,
> is
> > > that it is an Application Area of an ancient Global Standard on
> Concurrent
> > > Program Management. This aspect demystifies everything about
> ancient India -
> > > lesser known aspects of Vedas, Sastras, Sutras, Manusmrithi,
> Ramayana,
> > > Mahabharatha, and Kama Sutra, and the Indian Caste System.
> > >
> > >  Remember that we study that an ancient Indian Universities at
> Nalanda,
> > > etc., were destroyed. It is not a University, which was destroyed
> but
> > > Standardization Institute. Ancient Indian Grama is not a village.
> Ancient
> > > India prior to the Colonial Power wasn't rigid feudal society,
> which
> > > depended on the repression of the underprivileged, as it is in the
> case of
> > > Western Racial Discrimination. Colonial Power recorded as four
> thousand
> > > castes. Instead it was a vibrant knowledge society with thousand
> > > Professional Services Exchanges, which shared the Standardization.
> > >
> > >  You need to understand how Professional Services Exchange (PSE)
> works.
> > > Each Grama was a PSE. The Purpose of a PSE is to democratize
> knowledge and
> > > services - making Professional Development Courses, and
> Professional
> > > Services available and affordable through. This is done through
> > > Service-Credit system, which empowers you to earn Service Credits
> by
> > > offering Standardized Services to any Service Aspirant, which you
> can redeem
> > > to obtain other Standardized Services.
> > >
> > >  India still has the limitation that 1600 engineering colleges and
> 400
> > > management colleges of India just produce workers- no fair chance
> for these
> > > professionals to become innovators and entrepreneurs. This can be
> overcome
> > > if we understand how Knowledge Society of ancient India worked.
> > >
> > >  If we understand this intuition of PSE, immediately before Jan 26,
> 2008
> > > we would be able to roll out Virtual Technology Incubator, which
> gives a
> > > fair chance to become innovators and entrepreneurs to all 500,000
> > > engineering graduates and 100,000 management graduates every year.
> > > Regulatory regime of India committed serious mistake by allowing
> the
> > > opportunity to become Innovator and entrepreneur only to the
> students of the
> > > few premiere colleges. Most of these graduates are being absorbed
> as
> > > intrapreneurs and employees of MNCs.
> > >
> > >
> > >  In Sanskrit, Kama Sutra means Structured Approach to realize a
> defined
> > > Objective, Human Sexuality being just one Application Area, and the
> > > Structured Approach being Concurrent Program Management. I will
> give you
> > > notes on Concurrent Program Management, explained with respect to a
> > > contemporary Global Standard in Project Management published by
> Project
> > > Management Institute, USA.
> > >
> > >  I am not interested in researching Kama Sutra, because of the
> > > side-effects :-) But those of you, who wish to, should buy yourself
> Sanskrit
> > > equivalent of thesaurus known as Amarakosa. You take the Body of
> Knowledge
> > > on Concurrent Program Management and how PSE works, which I can
> give you.
> > > You will find one Interpretation, which empowers you to visualize
> how PSE of
> > > ancient India worked, where Kama Sutra as we know today is one
> Professional
> > > Development Course. The Product has the signature of the process
> through
> > > which it was reconciled. Be warned of the side effects and keep
> away if you
> > > don't have a healthy relationship and a dynamic/supportive
> partner :- )
> > >
> > >  Researchers could get very attached to the combinations of choice
> of
> > > words that indicate it to be a treatise on sexuality. As far as I
> know,
> > > reconstruction of one Interpretation as a Standard on Concurrent
> Program
> > > management requires group effort. This is because we are all
> products of a
> > > society subjected to perversions. The way I believe Kama Sutra was
> > > reconciled is as follows. It empowers you bright people to decode
> it as well
> > > as publish the next version :-)
> > >
> > >  Principles and Practices of Standardization is very boring, tiring,
> > > hard work. See the number of people who expressed interest in your
> session
> > > Vs. those who signed up for my session. If I teach PMBOK(R), unless
> the client
> > > needs, and you are hired by MNC, I don't think people would have
> patience to
> > > go through the subtleties. One of the side effects when we
> democratize
> > > Program management principles is that young kids with hormonal gush
> in their
> > > private moments are creating funny misinterpretations to the
> context of
> > > human sexuality.
> > >
> > >  Only the 1% who researches the analytical process of
> standardization
> > > needs to go through the rigor. If I explain how Concurrent Program
> > > Management is performed through cross-validation of Concurrent
> Project
> > > Management and Concurrent Operations Management, except for the 1%,
> others
> > > would be lost.
> > >
> > >  Emotional arousal enhances human ability to observe and to pay
> > > attention to the subtleties. Thus it takes lot of effort to teach
> the
> > > standard and let the other person pay attention to all the
> subtleties. The
> > > bits given by their peers help the stakeholders grasp the
> subtleties very
> > > easily. An Application Area reconciled through the award winning
> bits given
> > > by a large group would become very respectable Professional
> Development
> > > Course on Human Sexuality. So when PSE requires recertification,
> people
> > > prefer to get the necessary Professional Development Units by
> attending the
> > > Professional Development Courses in Application Areas of their
> choice rather
> > > than going through rigorous standards.
> > >
> > >  That was both the strength and weakness of ancient India. They
> could
> > > democratize Program management Principles to masses with examples
> from
> > > Project Context they could relate to easily. Not many people care
> if we
> > > promise 30% improvement in Productivity of an MNC. But 30%
> improvement in
> > > Stakeholder Satisfaction might make/break modern relationships.
> > >
> > >  But the weakness was when only few thousand certified
> Professionals
> > > with analytical knowledge on standardization was forced to shut up
> by the
> > > colonial power, and the victims were given money only after
> projecting the
> > > rulers as magnanimous deities and the educated as the selfish.
> India is
> > > still in the state of socio-economic collapse caused by the
> Colonial Power.
> > > It can relieve itself the minute a critical mass of professionals
> > > knowledgeable on how it was done can be created.
> > >
> > >  Why can't we empower the Academia? Why can't we empower the
> Voluntary
> > > Sector with contemporary Global Standards? I am sure the government
> wouldn't
> > > have budget for it, at least if we realize and start building PSE
> through
> > > Voluntary Effort, we can make progress through self-help instead of
> waiting
> > > on the governments which flaunt their right to rule instead of
> accepting the
> > > responsibility to serve before the helpless citizens who are forced
> to
> > > choose among the feudal parties, which don't have democratic
> principles
> > > instituted within the party itself.
> > >
> > >  Characteristic of Sanskrit is that each word has multiple meanings.
> In
> > > Sanskrit to English dictionary, colonial power only chose the wrong
> > > meanings. Now English dictionaries also have thesaurus. Remember
> the
> > > accusation that one community didn't teach essential knowledge on
> how to
> > > become innovators that history of ancient India was about
> repression of
> > > women, etc.? You need to know a few things to do balanced research.
> > >
> > >  I believe that talented graduates of IITs and IIMs understand that
> > > every must have core values, and it should publish contemporary
> operational
> > > definition how its activities are leading to the fulfillment of the
> core
> > > values. All India Council of Technical Education (AICTE) was formed
> in 1945,
> > > prior to Indian Independence. It was modification of British
> Educational
> > > Model known as McCauley Model of Education, which as a state policy
> of the
> > > colonial power to remove opportunity to become innovators and
> entrepreneurs
> > > for the educated citizens of colonial India.
> > >
> > >  Regulatory Economy model of Independent India thought that too
> much of
> > > innovation would blow up the feudal system. So they only allowed
> opportunity
> > > for innovation in only handful of premiere institutions. Now let's
> visit
> > > back the accusation about the cultural wisdom of ancient India that
> some
> > > community denied fair chance to become innovators for others? This
> is their
> > > defect, which they accused on earlier model, and indoctrinated the
> citizens
> > > who aren't aware of the earlier model believe that the past is also
> > > discrimination in order to justify current discrimination.
> > >
> > >  In ancient Indian approach, opportunity to University Education
> (to
> > > cope up with the limitation of capacity) is given to the few, who
> were
> > > proven in the test of their social aptitude. This is relevant to
> > > reservations. Consider the communities fighting that they should
> have
> > > whatever percentage of reservations. With due respect for the
> communities
> > > which believe in the necessity, let's study the social impact.
> Defect in the
> > > entrance tests of premiere institutions is that emotional
> intelligence is
> > > not tested. Ecosystem supporting Innovation and Entrepreneurship
> removes the
> > > necessity for the reservations, and clears the confusion about the
> Caste
> > > systems- two things at a time.
> > >
> > >  We should provide necessary orientation and professional
> opportunity
> > > how these professionals can contribute back. PSPI recommends
> creation of
> > > Virtual Forums with Video conferencing and high-speed Internet
> across all
> > > colleges so that the grads of Premiere colleges collaborate with
> the
> > > students of states colleges as team members to address the pressing
> problems
> > > of India instead of just being groomed from day 1 about the
> luxuries of a
> > > career in MNC and the case studies of America. Increase in the fees
> > > collected from the students of premiere institutions is a big
> concern, as it
> > > makes them unavailable for the society, for most of the student'
> can't
> > > afford the studies without a loan, can't pay the loan without a job
> in MNC,
> > > and can't think of developing India, and don't have time to do so
> even if
> > > they feel the pinch in their heart.
> > >
> > >  And also there is confusion why competency in Sanskrit is
> necessary for
> > > higher education. We can explain this very easily if you know how
> Concurrent
> > > Program Management works. A standard is a body reconciled through
> voluntary
> > > consensus. Say just like we have different communities fighting for
> their
> > > Perspectives, if you understand how PSE works, there would be
> existing users
> > > for different standardized Services. If you revise/modify, remove
> > > Standardized Services of PSE, their interests are affected. Groups
> fight
> > > fanatically if they are cornered without rehabilitation support.
> > >
> > >  In music, dance, poetry, competitions, the content is developed
> using
> > > the Standardization Principles of Concurrent Program Management.
> Say we give
> > > you 100 constraints, and ask the participants perform without
> violating
> > > those constraints. Those who fail to pay attention to the
> constraints which
> > > were given before hand, are likely to rake up emotional outbursts
> from other
> > > stakeholder groups. It is true that not everybody who succeeds in
> the
> > > knowledge competitions is likely to succeed in devising meaningful
> > > Standardized Services. It is also true that people who are affected
> by a
> > > Standardized Service sometimes propose innovative solutions to
> problems
> > > where the graduates of premiere colleges of India failed.
> > >
> > >  History of India indicates a repeated pattern, where the Knowledge
> > > Society is being seized by tyrants, it evolving into a Knowledge
> Society
> > > again, again being seized and so on. PSPI researches on
> demystifying what's
> > > going on.  Most of us know that Sanskrit is best suited to
> Computers. That
> > > is for the beginners, linguists and foreigners. In fact, cultural
> wisdom of
> > > India is a treasure trove of Standardization Principles,
> Architectures,
> > > Program Management Principles, etc.
> > >
> > >  Service Oriented Architectures and Service Oriented Infrastructure
> and
> > > collaborative forums like BarCamps are hot topics in Web
> Technologies. PSPI
> > > plans to present evidence how ancient Indians successfully used
> Service
> > > Oriented Architectures, and how Ancient Indian Societies were
> collapsing
> > > when the manual implementations of Service Oriented Architectures
> were
> > > manipulated. Interestingly, ancient Indian SOAs can be automated
> with modern
> > > Internet based SOAs, thus removing the error-prone human element in
> order to
> > > empowers India to become a Vibrant Knowledge Society once again and
> get rid
> > > of the confusion about the Caste System.
> > >
> > >  BarCamp supports exchange of Information. PSE is advanced and
> supports
> > > exchange of Services. But while BarCamp is an existing Product, PSE
> should
> > > be built. But just as Wind Tunnel Data is essential for Rocket
> Science,
> > > ancient Architects left their signature, which can be decoded by
> modern
> > > Information Technology Professionals, with adequate training in how
> > > Standards work and modern principles of abstraction, object
> oriented and
> > > service oriented designs, etc.
> > >
> > >  Let me explain how democratization of knowledge works. Say for
> example,
> > > if I wish to democratize Project Management, we need to devise
> grades in
> > > competencies. If all courses are offered through PSE, most of the
> > > participants don't realize the necessity for higher grade trainings.
> So the
> > > Service Standardization / Customization take place only with lower
> grade
> > > competency, by choice. The services reconciled with higher grade
> competency
> > > fail to have mass appeal.
> > >
> > >  Even if the communities with higher grade competencies isolate
> > > themselves, there is no demand for higher grade Project Management
> to the
> > > context of Service Standardization. However, exploding knowledge
> requires
> > > study of patterns, archival of obsolete Standardized Services,
> which earlier
> > > inspired consensus. Even thought the Service becomes obsolete,
> elements of
> > > it can be combined with other Services to inspire consensus for
> newer
> > > services.
> > >
> > >  Another element of PSE is data warehousing competency of the
> society.
> > > Again as a Company moves to SMPA-2, SMPA-4, SMPA-8 before moving to
> MPPA,
> > > necessity and sufficiency of a Data Warehousing Architecture is
> linked to
> > > financial commitment. Once architecture is selected, unless
> migration is
> > > justified and resources are approved, society can't move to upgrade.
> > > Certainly a few individuals take advantage of limitations. In
> addition,
> > > citizens' perception of Identified Process defects depends on their
> Project
> > > Management Competency and the Data Warehousing competency of the
> Society.
> > >
> > >  Migration Problems of ancient Indians, which we can minimize the
> > > inconvenience through Component Architectures is as follows. Once
> the higher
> > > grade competency people establish the necessity for improving the
> competency
> > > used for Process Standardization, there are still challenges. While
> the
> > > consensus for the Point of necessity of higher competency is
> inspired, there
> > > is a challenge of customizing the body of knowledge of higher grade
> > > competency being used to the context of archiving obsolete services
> to the
> > > context of standardization of new services.
> > >
> > >  This inspires consensus for regulatory regime for the transition
> > > period. We have a mess with one group preferring standardization
> with lower
> > > competency, one with higher competency and yet another one
> insisting on
> > > cross-validation of two, yet another insisting the cross-validation
> of prior
> > > three, yet another seeking cross-validation of prior four, etc. To
> survive
> > > this chaos, knowledge societies engage the services of people who
> lack
> > > Project Management Competency, to archive the behavioral knowledge.
> > > Mythology and Kama Sutra are highly resilient; they survive, while
> the
> > > standardization institutes face economic sanctions by regulatory
> regimes.
> > >
> > >  Sanathana Dharma is a truce negotiated with the plea that obsolete
> > > knowledge would be communicated as cultural heritage. But once the
> society
> > > understands Service Oriented Architectures, they overcome the
> limitations
> > > causing the failure of previous PSE. Representative democracy is
> the
> > > regulatory regime. Representative Democracy that accepts the
> responsibility
> > > to make Services available and affordable through funding for
> Autonomous
> > > Standardization Institutes solves the Problem. By the way Rajya
> does not
> > > mean monarchy but statutory authority through which standards are
> published.
> > > India can't afford to keep President and Government roles as
> substitutes for
> > > honorary roles of Monarchs, and making Rajyasabha subservient to
> political
> > > parities. Another wave of liberalization is due where Professionals
> > > liberalize the Academia and the Voluntary Sector. Dharma is about
> giving a
> > > fair chance for everybody to become Innovators and entrepreneurs.
> It
> > > requires comprehension of Concurrent
> > > Program management and Processes of PSE. Enough said.
> > >
> >
> >
> >


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