On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 3:28 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I have an aunt that keeps insisting the ancient Indians had everything from > aircraft (pushpaka vimanam) to nukes (brahmastra). She would be in good > company with this guy
What do you mean, AN aunt..I have whole hordes of relatives and friends whose only aim in life seems to be to prove How Wonderful We Indians Were (as Udhay would say, in Capital Letters.) Deepa. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > Of Namitha Jagadeesh > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:25 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [silk] Fwd: The lesser known aspects of kAmasutra and > > panchatantra > > > > Jace, BCB6 just got interesting. :) > > > > On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Kiran Jonnalagadda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > No comment. Make your own opinion. > > > > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > > > > From: Balarama Varanasi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Date: 12 April 2008 12:45:16 PM GMT+05:30 > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Subject: Re: [BCB] The lesser known aspects of kAmasutra and > > > > panchatantra > > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Hi friends: > > > > > > > > Important thing about Kama Sutra, other than being a treatise on > > human > > > > sexuality is that it is snapshot from the Knowledge Society, when > > India was > > > > the most developed nation on the planet, when all countries looked > > up to > > > > India with much owe compared to how we look at America now. As > > couple of > > > > friends have shown interst, I am copying the four-page text I have > > sent > > > > earlier as an attachment into the email itself. > > > > ------------------------------------------------ > > > > Demystifying Cultural Wisdom of Ancient India > > > > > > > > Importance of Kama Sutra, which has nothing to do with sex at all, > > is > > > > that it is an Application Area of an ancient Global Standard on > > Concurrent > > > > Program Management. This aspect demystifies everything about > > ancient India - > > > > lesser known aspects of Vedas, Sastras, Sutras, Manusmrithi, > > Ramayana, > > > > Mahabharatha, and Kama Sutra, and the Indian Caste System. > > > > > > > > Remember that we study that an ancient Indian Universities at > > Nalanda, > > > > etc., were destroyed. It is not a University, which was destroyed > > but > > > > Standardization Institute. Ancient Indian Grama is not a village. > > Ancient > > > > India prior to the Colonial Power wasn't rigid feudal society, > > which > > > > depended on the repression of the underprivileged, as it is in the > > case of > > > > Western Racial Discrimination. Colonial Power recorded as four > > thousand > > > > castes. Instead it was a vibrant knowledge society with thousand > > > > Professional Services Exchanges, which shared the Standardization. > > > > > > > > You need to understand how Professional Services Exchange (PSE) > > works. > > > > Each Grama was a PSE. The Purpose of a PSE is to democratize > > knowledge and > > > > services - making Professional Development Courses, and > > Professional > > > > Services available and affordable through. This is done through > > > > Service-Credit system, which empowers you to earn Service Credits > > by > > > > offering Standardized Services to any Service Aspirant, which you > > can redeem > > > > to obtain other Standardized Services. > > > > > > > > India still has the limitation that 1600 engineering colleges and > > 400 > > > > management colleges of India just produce workers- no fair chance > > for these > > > > professionals to become innovators and entrepreneurs. This can be > > overcome > > > > if we understand how Knowledge Society of ancient India worked. > > > > > > > > If we understand this intuition of PSE, immediately before Jan 26, > > 2008 > > > > we would be able to roll out Virtual Technology Incubator, which > > gives a > > > > fair chance to become innovators and entrepreneurs to all 500,000 > > > > engineering graduates and 100,000 management graduates every year. > > > > Regulatory regime of India committed serious mistake by allowing > > the > > > > opportunity to become Innovator and entrepreneur only to the > > students of the > > > > few premiere colleges. Most of these graduates are being absorbed > > as > > > > intrapreneurs and employees of MNCs. > > > > > > > > > > > > In Sanskrit, Kama Sutra means Structured Approach to realize a > > defined > > > > Objective, Human Sexuality being just one Application Area, and the > > > > Structured Approach being Concurrent Program Management. I will > > give you > > > > notes on Concurrent Program Management, explained with respect to a > > > > contemporary Global Standard in Project Management published by > > Project > > > > Management Institute, USA. > > > > > > > > I am not interested in researching Kama Sutra, because of the > > > > side-effects :-) But those of you, who wish to, should buy yourself > > Sanskrit > > > > equivalent of thesaurus known as Amarakosa. You take the Body of > > Knowledge > > > > on Concurrent Program Management and how PSE works, which I can > > give you. > > > > You will find one Interpretation, which empowers you to visualize > > how PSE of > > > > ancient India worked, where Kama Sutra as we know today is one > > Professional > > > > Development Course. The Product has the signature of the process > > through > > > > which it was reconciled. Be warned of the side effects and keep > > away if you > > > > don't have a healthy relationship and a dynamic/supportive > > partner :- ) > > > > > > > > Researchers could get very attached to the combinations of choice > > of > > > > words that indicate it to be a treatise on sexuality. As far as I > > know, > > > > reconstruction of one Interpretation as a Standard on Concurrent > > Program > > > > management requires group effort. This is because we are all > > products of a > > > > society subjected to perversions. The way I believe Kama Sutra was > > > > reconciled is as follows. It empowers you bright people to decode > > it as well > > > > as publish the next version :-) > > > > > > > > Principles and Practices of Standardization is very boring, tiring, > > > > hard work. See the number of people who expressed interest in your > > session > > > > Vs. those who signed up for my session. If I teach PMBOK(R), unless > > the client > > > > needs, and you are hired by MNC, I don't think people would have > > patience to > > > > go through the subtleties. One of the side effects when we > > democratize > > > > Program management principles is that young kids with hormonal gush > > in their > > > > private moments are creating funny misinterpretations to the > > context of > > > > human sexuality. > > > > > > > > Only the 1% who researches the analytical process of > > standardization > > > > needs to go through the rigor. If I explain how Concurrent Program > > > > Management is performed through cross-validation of Concurrent > > Project > > > > Management and Concurrent Operations Management, except for the 1%, > > others > > > > would be lost. > > > > > > > > Emotional arousal enhances human ability to observe and to pay > > > > attention to the subtleties. Thus it takes lot of effort to teach > > the > > > > standard and let the other person pay attention to all the > > subtleties. The > > > > bits given by their peers help the stakeholders grasp the > > subtleties very > > > > easily. An Application Area reconciled through the award winning > > bits given > > > > by a large group would become very respectable Professional > > Development > > > > Course on Human Sexuality. So when PSE requires recertification, > > people > > > > prefer to get the necessary Professional Development Units by > > attending the > > > > Professional Development Courses in Application Areas of their > > choice rather > > > > than going through rigorous standards. > > > > > > > > That was both the strength and weakness of ancient India. They > > could > > > > democratize Program management Principles to masses with examples > > from > > > > Project Context they could relate to easily. Not many people care > > if we > > > > promise 30% improvement in Productivity of an MNC. But 30% > > improvement in > > > > Stakeholder Satisfaction might make/break modern relationships. > > > > > > > > But the weakness was when only few thousand certified > > Professionals > > > > with analytical knowledge on standardization was forced to shut up > > by the > > > > colonial power, and the victims were given money only after > > projecting the > > > > rulers as magnanimous deities and the educated as the selfish. > > India is > > > > still in the state of socio-economic collapse caused by the > > Colonial Power. > > > > It can relieve itself the minute a critical mass of professionals > > > > knowledgeable on how it was done can be created. > > > > > > > > Why can't we empower the Academia? Why can't we empower the > > Voluntary > > > > Sector with contemporary Global Standards? I am sure the government > > wouldn't > > > > have budget for it, at least if we realize and start building PSE > > through > > > > Voluntary Effort, we can make progress through self-help instead of > > waiting > > > > on the governments which flaunt their right to rule instead of > > accepting the > > > > responsibility to serve before the helpless citizens who are forced > > to > > > > choose among the feudal parties, which don't have democratic > > principles > > > > instituted within the party itself. > > > > > > > > Characteristic of Sanskrit is that each word has multiple meanings. > > In > > > > Sanskrit to English dictionary, colonial power only chose the wrong > > > > meanings. Now English dictionaries also have thesaurus. Remember > > the > > > > accusation that one community didn't teach essential knowledge on > > how to > > > > become innovators that history of ancient India was about > > repression of > > > > women, etc.? You need to know a few things to do balanced research. > > > > > > > > I believe that talented graduates of IITs and IIMs understand that > > > > every must have core values, and it should publish contemporary > > operational > > > > definition how its activities are leading to the fulfillment of the > > core > > > > values. All India Council of Technical Education (AICTE) was formed > > in 1945, > > > > prior to Indian Independence. It was modification of British > > Educational > > > > Model known as McCauley Model of Education, which as a state policy > > of the > > > > colonial power to remove opportunity to become innovators and > > entrepreneurs > > > > for the educated citizens of colonial India. > > > > > > > > Regulatory Economy model of Independent India thought that too > > much of > > > > innovation would blow up the feudal system. So they only allowed > > opportunity > > > > for innovation in only handful of premiere institutions. Now let's > > visit > > > > back the accusation about the cultural wisdom of ancient India that > > some > > > > community denied fair chance to become innovators for others? This > > is their > > > > defect, which they accused on earlier model, and indoctrinated the > > citizens > > > > who aren't aware of the earlier model believe that the past is also > > > > discrimination in order to justify current discrimination. > > > > > > > > In ancient Indian approach, opportunity to University Education > > (to > > > > cope up with the limitation of capacity) is given to the few, who > > were > > > > proven in the test of their social aptitude. This is relevant to > > > > reservations. Consider the communities fighting that they should > > have > > > > whatever percentage of reservations. With due respect for the > > communities > > > > which believe in the necessity, let's study the social impact. > > Defect in the > > > > entrance tests of premiere institutions is that emotional > > intelligence is > > > > not tested. Ecosystem supporting Innovation and Entrepreneurship > > removes the > > > > necessity for the reservations, and clears the confusion about the > > Caste > > > > systems- two things at a time. > > > > > > > > We should provide necessary orientation and professional > > opportunity > > > > how these professionals can contribute back. PSPI recommends > > creation of > > > > Virtual Forums with Video conferencing and high-speed Internet > > across all > > > > colleges so that the grads of Premiere colleges collaborate with > > the > > > > students of states colleges as team members to address the pressing > > problems > > > > of India instead of just being groomed from day 1 about the > > luxuries of a > > > > career in MNC and the case studies of America. Increase in the fees > > > > collected from the students of premiere institutions is a big > > concern, as it > > > > makes them unavailable for the society, for most of the student' > > can't > > > > afford the studies without a loan, can't pay the loan without a job > > in MNC, > > > > and can't think of developing India, and don't have time to do so > > even if > > > > they feel the pinch in their heart. > > > > > > > > And also there is confusion why competency in Sanskrit is > > necessary for > > > > higher education. We can explain this very easily if you know how > > Concurrent > > > > Program Management works. A standard is a body reconciled through > > voluntary > > > > consensus. Say just like we have different communities fighting for > > their > > > > Perspectives, if you understand how PSE works, there would be > > existing users > > > > for different standardized Services. If you revise/modify, remove > > > > Standardized Services of PSE, their interests are affected. Groups > > fight > > > > fanatically if they are cornered without rehabilitation support. > > > > > > > > In music, dance, poetry, competitions, the content is developed > > using > > > > the Standardization Principles of Concurrent Program Management. > > Say we give > > > > you 100 constraints, and ask the participants perform without > > violating > > > > those constraints. Those who fail to pay attention to the > > constraints which > > > > were given before hand, are likely to rake up emotional outbursts > > from other > > > > stakeholder groups. It is true that not everybody who succeeds in > > the > > > > knowledge competitions is likely to succeed in devising meaningful > > > > Standardized Services. It is also true that people who are affected > > by a > > > > Standardized Service sometimes propose innovative solutions to > > problems > > > > where the graduates of premiere colleges of India failed. > > > > > > > > History of India indicates a repeated pattern, where the Knowledge > > > > Society is being seized by tyrants, it evolving into a Knowledge > > Society > > > > again, again being seized and so on. PSPI researches on > > demystifying what's > > > > going on. Most of us know that Sanskrit is best suited to > > Computers. That > > > > is for the beginners, linguists and foreigners. In fact, cultural > > wisdom of > > > > India is a treasure trove of Standardization Principles, > > Architectures, > > > > Program Management Principles, etc. > > > > > > > > Service Oriented Architectures and Service Oriented Infrastructure > > and > > > > collaborative forums like BarCamps are hot topics in Web > > Technologies. PSPI > > > > plans to present evidence how ancient Indians successfully used > > Service > > > > Oriented Architectures, and how Ancient Indian Societies were > > collapsing > > > > when the manual implementations of Service Oriented Architectures > > were > > > > manipulated. Interestingly, ancient Indian SOAs can be automated > > with modern > > > > Internet based SOAs, thus removing the error-prone human element in > > order to > > > > empowers India to become a Vibrant Knowledge Society once again and > > get rid > > > > of the confusion about the Caste System. > > > > > > > > BarCamp supports exchange of Information. PSE is advanced and > > supports > > > > exchange of Services. But while BarCamp is an existing Product, PSE > > should > > > > be built. But just as Wind Tunnel Data is essential for Rocket > > Science, > > > > ancient Architects left their signature, which can be decoded by > > modern > > > > Information Technology Professionals, with adequate training in how > > > > Standards work and modern principles of abstraction, object > > oriented and > > > > service oriented designs, etc. > > > > > > > > Let me explain how democratization of knowledge works. Say for > > example, > > > > if I wish to democratize Project Management, we need to devise > > grades in > > > > competencies. If all courses are offered through PSE, most of the > > > > participants don't realize the necessity for higher grade trainings. > > So the > > > > Service Standardization / Customization take place only with lower > > grade > > > > competency, by choice. The services reconciled with higher grade > > competency > > > > fail to have mass appeal. > > > > > > > > Even if the communities with higher grade competencies isolate > > > > themselves, there is no demand for higher grade Project Management > > to the > > > > context of Service Standardization. However, exploding knowledge > > requires > > > > study of patterns, archival of obsolete Standardized Services, > > which earlier > > > > inspired consensus. Even thought the Service becomes obsolete, > > elements of > > > > it can be combined with other Services to inspire consensus for > > newer > > > > services. > > > > > > > > Another element of PSE is data warehousing competency of the > > society. > > > > Again as a Company moves to SMPA-2, SMPA-4, SMPA-8 before moving to > > MPPA, > > > > necessity and sufficiency of a Data Warehousing Architecture is > > linked to > > > > financial commitment. Once architecture is selected, unless > > migration is > > > > justified and resources are approved, society can't move to upgrade. > > > > Certainly a few individuals take advantage of limitations. In > > addition, > > > > citizens' perception of Identified Process defects depends on their > > Project > > > > Management Competency and the Data Warehousing competency of the > > Society. > > > > > > > > Migration Problems of ancient Indians, which we can minimize the > > > > inconvenience through Component Architectures is as follows. Once > > the higher > > > > grade competency people establish the necessity for improving the > > competency > > > > used for Process Standardization, there are still challenges. While > > the > > > > consensus for the Point of necessity of higher competency is > > inspired, there > > > > is a challenge of customizing the body of knowledge of higher grade > > > > competency being used to the context of archiving obsolete services > > to the > > > > context of standardization of new services. > > > > > > > > This inspires consensus for regulatory regime for the transition > > > > period. We have a mess with one group preferring standardization > > with lower > > > > competency, one with higher competency and yet another one > > insisting on > > > > cross-validation of two, yet another insisting the cross-validation > > of prior > > > > three, yet another seeking cross-validation of prior four, etc. To > > survive > > > > this chaos, knowledge societies engage the services of people who > > lack > > > > Project Management Competency, to archive the behavioral knowledge. > > > > Mythology and Kama Sutra are highly resilient; they survive, while > > the > > > > standardization institutes face economic sanctions by regulatory > > regimes. > > > > > > > > Sanathana Dharma is a truce negotiated with the plea that obsolete > > > > knowledge would be communicated as cultural heritage. But once the > > society > > > > understands Service Oriented Architectures, they overcome the > > limitations > > > > causing the failure of previous PSE. Representative democracy is > > the > > > > regulatory regime. Representative Democracy that accepts the > > responsibility > > > > to make Services available and affordable through funding for > > Autonomous > > > > Standardization Institutes solves the Problem. By the way Rajya > > does not > > > > mean monarchy but statutory authority through which standards are > > published. > > > > India can't afford to keep President and Government roles as > > substitutes for > > > > honorary roles of Monarchs, and making Rajyasabha subservient to > > political > > > > parities. Another wave of liberalization is due where Professionals > > > > liberalize the Academia and the Voluntary Sector. Dharma is about > > giving a > > > > fair chance for everybody to become Innovators and entrepreneurs. > > It > > > > requires comprehension of Concurrent > > > > Program management and Processes of PSE. Enough said. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
