So wanting to have a toilet in the house instead of crapping on the riverbank, 
a tv / fan instead of village dappankoothu performances and palm leaf hand 
fans, electric grinder rather than stone hand grinder is materialism?

-- 
srs (blackberry)

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From: ashok _ <[email protected]>
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Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:55:36 
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On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Srini RamaKrishnan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> The deferring of debt repayments - it happens anyway, even without
>> loan waivers. Agri loan restructuring is given a wide berth by the
>> RBI. What happens is that these people go and borrow from moneylenders
>> who are not part of the formal system, and the lenders twist arms. The
>> Microfinance world tried to plug that gap but it turned out to have
>> issues (though I think that is the real solution, expanding access to
>> cerdit).
>
> Farmers make money once or twice a year during harvests, and then need
> to spend the money wisely during the rest of the year  without
> spending it all on a wedding or feast. They are trapped between two
> lifestyles - one that wants to continue the traditions and ways of the
> past and one that wants to live in the selfish individuality of the
> future.
>
> There are deep sociological issues here that a country of the east
> like India embracing the economic ways of the west needs to consider.
> Carlos Fuentes wrote a lot about his home country Mexico in the
> context of living next to the large successful North American
> neighbor, India would do well to find its Fuentes.
>
>


I agree with your sentiments about things being bad. But it is also a
fact that a large majority of people want "western" ways and
consumerism.
I dont know if i want to even call it "western" since indian society
is actually very materialistic - who doesnt want a television or a
mobile phone ? heck - in tamil nadu home grown politicians (without
any western education )  have been giving aways televisions, grinders
, tablets etc (it could be entirely possible to argue that some people
have benefited by using these freebies and so giving it away was in
fact a good thing -- fundamentally, if people get something for free
even a hand-kerchief and you ask them if they benefited from it, they
will say yes ).

giving money away (as a debt waiver or as a free television)  is at
best a short term solution, and the same politicians who are giving it
out are hiding behind that to make up for failures in other  basic
provisions like providing potable water , transport and communication
infrastructure etc - because thats more difficult to achieve and show
as a return in the electoral cycle.

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