Um when I talk virtual machines it's so I can get environments I control
onto my machine. I'm not hosting people I don't trust on my laptop...

In that environment the risks of running something in a a VM or container
are the same as running it directly on your desktop - or less.

I use Mac laptop and Emacs as my primary Dev environment. Certainly there
are differences between that and a Unix distro but I find them minor. The
Mac is POSIX compliant, but the UI is certainly different from linux's GUI.
I think it's better, but obviously mileage varies.

For me the "killer app" is my photo workflow using Lightroom and Photoshop,
I can well believe you might have some native linux app or customisation
you can't live without.

On Sat., 30 Sep. 2017, 3:53 pm Tomasz Rola, <[email protected]> wrote:

> Alok, Charles - thank you for the answers. Very much appreciated,
> because there is no way I could run "MacOS experiment" on a spare
> *puter - no time, no money.
>
> Well, so it looks like even though Emacs works without problem, there
> would have been some limitations if I moved to MacOS and I would have
> to redesign good part of my dataflow, and not quite for the better. I
> have kind of suspected that, but it is good to have some info on the
> subject.
>
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 03:38:23AM +0000, Alok Singh wrote:
> > On Mon, 25 Sep 2017 at 02:22 Tomasz Rola <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > would that be under MacOS - I mean, virtual desktops, ram disk,
> > > lots of windows?
> > >
> >
> > Haha. [...]
>
> Haha? Oh my.
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 03:42:23AM +0000, Charles Haynes wrote:
> >
> > You didn't include virtual machines. [...]
>
> Yeah. VMs were very cool and sexy (technologically), but after hearing
> of escaping code, rowhammer, ime and who knows what will future bring,
> they have lost almost all of their technological charm. Certainly, a
> rational actor will not waste time to have my archive of emails (and
> most of it is on gog already), but irrational actor will be happy as
> hell when destroying a decade or few of somebody's life. And I can
> easily envision a future where rational actors will be minority. Thus
> carelessly running alien code in VM, even one as well written as
> Windows [0], is gradually becoming a non-option. Just MHO and I am not
> sure yet how to react to this.
>
> [0] ...
>
> --
> Regards,
> Tomasz Rola
>
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> ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home    **
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