Welcome James! Now this is really getting interesting!
>Jack, > I am new to the silver list, I came here from the rife >list. I am a Registered Holistic Counselor, and just sent in >my last paper to Clayton College of Natural Healing to become >a Naturopath. Congratulations! > First I have a question. You said your Naturopath used >CRA testing on you. What is CRA testing? I have been trying >to figure it out, but have not done so yet. > Now, here's my views on using CS. I too make my own, >and have been > using a dark field microscope to check and try >to figure out the difference between commercial CS and >homemade CS. The commercial CS that I have looked at is 500 >ppm, and looks like mud. There are a lot of commercial solutions that are nowhere near this concentration! Just in case folks out there are inclined to think this is the norm for commercial solutions. This is very concentrated. It has very >small particles and they move under the microscope. I understand it >is called "brownian" movement and it is important that the particles >have this movement. The homemade CS that I have checked so far has >little to no brownian movement, and the particle sizes are larger. Not all CS is the same, as you know. Have you compared solutions generated for different time periods? Different methods/protocols? This would be an interesting study. Have you noted the difference in the brownian motion when the solutions are of much lesser concentrations? >Mine is about 200 ppm and is gray in color. I don't make mine this concentrated, but have consumed several ounces of well over 100 parts per million, without toxicity due to silver poisoning (but I did have a herx that lasted over a week before things got back to normal and it was necessary to use a probiotic to rebuild the intestinal flora which took about two weeks). Other than that, no problem. So apparently at least two of us are still alive and havn't turned gray yet. :) Since my above experiment to determine the safety of a large dose like this, I have been sticking with the lesser concentrations, as recommended by the physicians I have been in contact with and of whose articles I have read. This has worked for both myself and family and served well through many different types of healing opportunities. I think we ought to be more conservative in our dosages, personally. > Once when I had an abcessed tooth, I drank 32 oz one day, 24 oz the This is the most I have ever heard of anyone drinking in a single day's period. Thirty-two ounces of 200 ppm...... How does this line up with the OSHA standard???????? :) Apples and oranges! NO? Colloidal silver is a different animal than the silver that is being used to create fear in the hearts of men, and to pass legislation suppressing the true colloidal solutions we are manufacturing. Proof once again????? Thanks James! James, did anyone actually see you do this? Did you get it on video tape, make a documentary, or anything close? No offense, but this is really hard to believe. I an not trying to give you a hard time, honestly! Don't other people think this dosage is a bit extreme? Are there anyother physicians at Clayton College who advocate such methods? >next two days and went to the dentist, and the abcess was almost >gone. So as you can see, if an infection is present, I would suggest >taking a large amount of CS until under control, then I don't take >any unless I feel I am getting another infection. Then I just take a >few ounces at a time. Now without a calculator...mind you..... OK....we have 32 ounces of 200ppm CS, that is one quart of 40 X 5 ppm solution ..or 40 quarts of 5ppm solution is the equivalent. That is 10 gallons of 5ppm CS. LOL And in a single day? > I would suggest you try taking from 2 to 8 ounces per day as a >preventative amount of CS. More if an infection is present. 2-8 ounces per day OF WHAT CONCENTRATION doctor?? Two hundred parts per million? That is equivalent to ten quarts of 5ppm solution. That is really an extreme dose, even for something with such low toxicity as colloidal silver (which is virtually nil). It is a potent antibiotic and that much is capable of knocking out a lot of friendly bacteria along with the "invaders". That is a tremendous amount of die off. Now here is an interesting thought, just compare this method with the method of using a 5cc preparation of 5ppm solution, injected intravenously over a 5 minute period. Seems like it would not be such an extreme orientation afterall. NO? If the additional silver acts as an anti-toxin, then are we looking at an elimination of the toxins excreted by the dying organisms (this is a well known effect spoken of frequently on the Rife list , as I recall- I am still on it by the way). There is still the matter of processing all those dead organisms, this can be a real load on the kidneys. Or am I being unecessarily cautious? I sure would like to see some productive discussion on this one! Pros and Cons! > This is just my opinion. > God Bless you and all on the list! > James L. Einert, R.H.C. > James, I have to differ with you, for the sake of safety, and until proven otherwise. If a man has a serious infection in his body, and his kidneys and or liver are not able to handle the die off effect , this could throw him into a herx reaction. To my understanding this could actually cause kidney failure and serious complications in some people! This concept and reality has been discussed throughly on the Rife list over the last several years. Gary Hawkins, our moderator is also closely associated with the Rife list , maybe we should ask him to be the referee? :) It has been my understanding that a gradual approach is the best method in dealing with an infection. Increasing the dosage over several days. Are you saying that taking a concentrated dose like you have is safe for everyone that may be reading this post? Or would you like to qualify this further? You also mentioned NOTHING about increasing the consumption of water while taking this enormous amount of antibiotic silver! This really concerns me, this would be a real setup for the kidneys to be maxed-out, and to not have additional help from the increased supply of water to aid in this stress. Not a good idea for everyone, certainly! For anyone, very likely! I am open to debate and always willing to listen to reason. Is this an unfounded concern? I ask sincerely. Men like Bob Beck, and many others , recommend a more dilute solution in the range of 5-10 ppm, and a more gradual method of developing the maximum dosage. These concentrations have been what I have generally adhered to, except in personal experimentation. The lesser concentrations have always worked for us. Do you not use these? Would you please elaborate your reason for not doing so? Testimonies would be great too! It is great having you aboard! How long did you say you have been into colloidal silver? Well, I don't want to overload you, sorry! Let's save some for next time. God Bless, and thanks! Scott John 3:16 "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth on Him should not perish , but have everlasting life."
