Hi Tom, and List,

Tom, did you not tell me that your area of specialization was radiology? 
But your feel free to prognosticate...thusly:

>I am oriented towards prevention myself even though I was 
>classically trained in medicine.  I would NOT expect 
>alternative medicine to have any magic ways of dealing with 
>this particular disease, and stress that insulin is absolutely 
>necessary for this girl's survival and you must not take any 
>chances with weird alternatives.
>
>Unfortunately, this disease will not leave her body.

My most sincere sympathy goes out to those so mentally conditioned as to
give credence to this representation of the drug companies' party line,
just because of two little letters (that mean absolutely nothing in terms
of being wise in matters of health) that follow a man's name. 

Tom, you condemn this little girl to a lifetime with a serious illness,
simply because you don't know what you are talking about. You simply parrot
what blind men have taught you. There are a lot of M.D.s waking up and
getting right on this issue. You can too, if you really care about others,
you will!

You boldly declare to the world that "TYPE 1 IS NOT CURABLE , AS FAR AS WE
KNOW"....as far as who knows? The AMA....? I would have to agree. However,
the AMA is not final authority on all matters of faith and practice! There
are those who do know, let's take a look a couple of these folks , and
especially one named Dr.Hulda Clark a renowned biochemist and naturopathic
physician.

[Well, here we have a classical confrontation between the alternative
medical modalities, and the AMA training, and mental programming acquired
in AMA/pharmaceutical company approved/"medical schools". No offense Tom,
but this stuff really gets me going. Here is something you may find
interesting. I would have posted it about two hours ago, but my computer
locked up and I lost the whole thing. Here goes trial #2....]

First:
From a newsletter published by Walter Grotz of hydrogen peroxide/oxygen
therapy fame.....THE ECHO NEWS....an explanation is given by Dr.DeLynn
Hansen of Silverado, that amongst 649 other known diseases, diabetes is
included in those that can be effectively treated with colloidal silver.
Please contact the ECHO NEWS to debate this statement...I am simply
reporting it. You can get their back issues through the FAMILY HEALTH
NEWS...1-800-284-6263, back issues are $5.00.

Next, let me refer to the book by Dr.Hulda Clark entitled, THE CURE FOR ALL
DISEASES. Dr.Clark has been chased all around the country with threats of
prosecution (and incarceration and consfication go with this, of course..she
WILL NOT GET A FAIR TRIAL...if she even lives to make it to court.)
if she does not "shut up her mouth" in regard to teaching folks how to get
well. Of course the AMA drones do not phrase it this way, but those who
have found these methods of Dr.Clark's to "just happen to work" will tell
you different!

>From page 173**************************************************************

DIABETES

All diabetics have a common fluke parasite, Eurytrema pancreaticum, the
pancreatic fluke of cattle, in their own pancreas. It seems likely that we
get it from cattle, repeatedly, by eating their meat or dairy products in a
raw state. It is not hard to kill with a zapper but because of it's
infective stages in our food supply we can immediately be reinfected.
Eurytrema will not settle and multiply in our pancreas without the presence
of wood alcohol (methanol). Methanol pollution pervades our food supply-it
is found in processed food including bottled water, artificial sweetener,
soda pop, baby formula and powdered drinks of all kinds including health
food varieties. I presume wood alcohol is used to wash equipment used in
manufacturing. If your child has diabetes, use nothing out of a can,
package or bottle except regular milk, and no processed foods.

By killing this parasite and removing wood alcohol from the diet, the need
for insulin can be cut in half in three weeks (or sooner!)

Be vigilant with your blood sugar checks. The pancreas with it's tiny
islets that produce insulin recovers very quickly. Even if 90% of them were
destroyed, requiring daily insulin shots, half of them can recover or
regenerate so insulin is no longer necessary. The insulin shot itself may
be pollutted with wood alcohol (this is an especially cruel irony-the
treatment itself is worsening the condition). Test it yourself, using the
wood alcohol in automotive fluids (windshield washer) or from a paint
store, as a test substance. Try different brands of insulin until you find
one that is free of mathanol.

ARTIFICIAL SWEETENERS ARE POLLUTED WITH WOOD ALCOHOL!

Instead of helping you cope with diabetes, they are actually promoting it!
DO NOT USE THEM. 

Drugs that stimulate your pancreas to make more insulin may also carry
solvent pollution; test them for wood alcohol and switch brands and bottles
until you find a pure one. You may not need them much longer, so the extra
expense now may soon reward you. 

Many persons CAN detoxify the amount of wood alcohol that pollutes our
foods. They do not have a food mold, Kojic acid, built up in their bodies
as diabetics
do. I have found koojic acid in coffee, and potatoes with gray areas
inside. Do not eat discolored potatoes with gray areas inside. Do not eat
discolored potatoes or peels, even if cooked or baked. Being able to
detoxify a poisonouos substance like wood alcohol should not give us the
justification for consuming it. ALL POISONS ARE BAD FOR US DO NOT CONSUME
THEM.

All diabetic persons ALSO carry a virus, HA virus in the pancreas. This
virus grows in the skin as a wart but is spread quite widely in the body
such as in the spleen of liver besides pancreas. It is not necessary to
kill this virus since it disappears when the pancreatdc fluke is gone. The
HA virus undoubtedly belongs to the pancreatic fluke. The question can be
asked: Does the fluke or it's virus cause diabetes? There mTght even be a
bacterium, so far missed in our observations, that is the real perpetrator.

WHILE RECOVERING FROM DIABETES, IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO CHECK YOUR BLOOD
SUGAR EVERY DAY. IMPROVEMENT IS SO RAPID, YOU MAY SUDDENLY BE
OVER-INSULINIZED BY YOUR NEXT SHOT. CUT DOWN YOUR DOSE TO SUIT YOUR ACTUAL
NEED.

There are additional aspects to diabetes that have been studied by
alternative physicians. For instance, allergy to wheat and other grains
containing gluten is common. Perhaps the pancreas and it's islets would
heal much faster if grains were out of the diet for a while. Perhaps the
50% improvement that is consistently possible just by killing parasites and
stopping wood alcohol consumption could be improved further by a month of
grain-free diet. Eating fenugreek seeds has been reported to greatly
benefit (actually cure) diabetes cases. Are they a specific fluke killer,
virus killer, or neither? It seems like a good idea to add this to your
diet if you are a diabetic. Wood alcohol
also acccumulates in the eyes, and there is a connection between diabetes
and eye disease. Bilberry leaves are an herbal treatment for both diabetes
and weak eyes. Do they help by counteracting wood alcohol or detoxifying
Kojic acid? Make a tea for yourself, using 1/4 cup leaves to three cups
water. Drink 1/2 cup a day. Chromium is another must for diabetics (200mcgs
three times a day). It helps insulin enter your cells."

This is all I have to offer tonight, it is late and I am tired. Suffice it
to say, there IS HOPE FOR DIABETES! This child does not have to be
condemned to a life on damaging insulin and a sentence of NO HOPE FOR HER
RECOVERY!!!!!

May God Have Mercy on the AMA,

God Bless, 

Scott


(PS..for those who want the book above...1-800-231-1776....$21.95 A must
read and great referance work. Plans for the "zapper", formulas for liver
flushes, kidney flushes, and complete lists of environmental toxins and how
to remove them from your life!)





At 10:44 PM 12/23/97 -0600, you wrote:
>Regarding diabetes:
>
>Adult type II diabetes is curable simply by losing weight, 
>regardless of the type of diet that accomplishes this.
>
>Adult type I diabetes (which is what this little girl apparently 
>has) is not curable as far as we know.
>
>Vanadium and chromium may help, but it is likely that her 
>pancreatic cells cannot produce enough insulin, and that this
>ability has been destroyed, often after a viral infection in 
>susceptible individuals. 
>
>I am oriented towards prevention myself even though I was 
>classically trained in medicine.  I would NOT expect 
>alternative medicine to have any magic ways of dealing with 
>this particular disease, and stress that insulin is absolutely 
>necessary for this girl's survival and you must not take any 
>chances with weird alternatives.
>
>Unfortunately, this disease will not leave her body.
>
>Tom Clayton, MD 
>  
>
>
>
>
>
>Dear Mark,
>
>Dr. Gerson, of the Gerson Therapy fame (clinic in Tijuana, and one to 
>open in the USA soon)  apparently cured Dr. Albert Schweitzer of 
>adult type II diabetes with a complete Vegan diet.  The adult type II 
>diabetes is supposed to be incurable.  I have heard and read of other 
>cures based mainly on a nourishing diet and use of trace minerals 
>like vanadium and chromium.  As I have discovered, you have to look 
>at ALL things (past, present, and future) that are affecting this 
>10 year old girl.  
>
>It would help to get various alternative health practitioners a shot 
>at diagnosis and prescription for healing.  Be sure to include a 
>Doctor of Oriental Medicine as they bring an understanding of the 5 
>Elements and how to get them into balance in the body that Western 
>medicine ignores.  If it is meant to be, someone, or perhaps herself, 
>will find a regimen of action and change that will remove the disease 
>from her body.
>
>Daniel S.
>=====================================================
>
>>      Dear List:
>> 
>>      A dear friend's 10 year-old girl was just recently diagnosed with
>> diabetes, and almost died in a five-day crisis at her local hospital. She's
>> over the crisis, but still has the diabetes. My own mother was kind
enough to
>> hysterically tell me that all children who "come down with" diabetes end up
>> getting fingers and limbs amputated before dying a miserable young
death. She
>> also maintains, of course, that if there was a cure for diabetes THE
DOCTORS
>> would know about it.
>>      In any case, I was wondering if anyone on the list has experienced any
>> success with diabetes using silver, Beck's electromedicine devices, etc. I
>> would appreciate any information I can get...
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>> 
>
>
>
>
John 3:16
"For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that
whosoever believeth on Him should not perish , but have everlasting life."