Hi folks, Faith writes: > Nonsense. Sovereign Silver is a good cs and it is sold in brown bottles > to protect the product from light as are all cs priducts on the market. > CS needs to be protected from light. Faith G.
Faith, you may need to lighten up a bit with the use of unadorned epithets like "Nonsense" and "Rubbish." They come across much harsher and more insulting than I think you realize or intend. I would appreicate it. That aside, I'd like to address a couple of things to this topic that us old-timers on the group need to refresh in everyone's mind. Bob Berger, one of our most vigorous researchers, now departed, sadly, advocated using the clear PETE plastic bottles of the exact kind that are usually used for soda pop. These he found to be extremely low in contamination, not to mention very inexpensive. I've long used this kind of bottle, but I always buy them filled with drinking water of some kind so that I never have to fight to get the flavor and odor of the original beverage out of them. A simple rinse with distilled water and they're ready to go. I believe these have the 1 (one) in the triangle on their bottom. Bob was also a strong advocate of the notion that good CS does NOT need to be protected from light. In fact, if you're making it right, you can literally keep it on the windowsill in full sunlight for years without it going bad. He did that exact experiment, and detected no measurable degradation in samples taken over periods of months and years, using sensitive, professional quality test equipment to measure its concentration. "Making it right" generally involves some kind of current controlled or current limited generator with a fairly low current density relative to electrode surface area, modest concentration, clear, colorless, with a slight Tyndal effect (at most). Dee's silver puppy certainly qualifies. Some commercial products, however, are made by different processes, such as chemical precipitation or different kinds of electrolysis conditions, or are of high concentration, contain silver salts or other compounds, with additives of who knows what, and may actually need to be protected from the light. These are probably not as safe as most of us would want and deserve to be avoided I imagine some vendors of good products also may use colored plastic or glass just because that's what customers expect, even though they might not need it for their particular product. That whole assumption, however, is a holdover from the early days when we used to make CS with a drop or two of salt solution or other materials as "starter" to speed things up. The stuff we made that way indeed NEEDED to be protected. In fact, the dark bottles we were encouraged to use could even disguise the silver sediment that would drop out of those preparations over time! I know I didn't realize how badly my primitive "CS" was settling out until I went to thoroughly clean the dark blue bottles I'd been using, and discovered all this silver sludge in the bottom! That was the wake-up call that got me to finally upgrade my methods to using only pure water and no additives, and, later, current limiting. So, Dee, it would be okay to use clear glass or colored. If you're willing to use plastic, then the PETE of the sort that soda pop comes in has been used without concern by quite a few of us. I recommend buying bottled water in the same kind of bottles and tossing the water. <grin> You certainly don't need to store your CS on the window sill, but I also don't think you need to be extremely concerned about keeping it in utter darkness, either. My CS, in PETE bottles, sits out on the desk in my office and continues to work fine whether it sits for a few weeks or even months, or is used right away. I hope that helps. Be well, Mike D,. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "sol" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 9:30 PM > Subject: Re: CS>Bottles > > > >I think commercial CS is sold in brown bottles, because usually it > >isn't very good CS. Maybe they don't want you to see the dark yellow > >color? > > sol > > > > Faith Gagne wrote: > >> You prefer plastic, I prefer glass. I don't find it necessary to use > >> plastic if ever I can help it for anything. And furthermore, I have > >> never seen CS sold in stores in anything but brown glass, though some > >> people sell it over the internet in plastic. Been there, done that > >> and sent it back. Faith g. [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [[email protected] ] [Speaking only for myself... ] -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
