Thanks for the info Marshall. Silver citrate has gotten my interest. While it may not replace ionic or collodal silver it has some attractive characteristics:
-The dry ingredients can be stored for an emergency and can be mixed without electricty if need be. -When traveling by air you can take a small amount of concentrated silver citrate and dilute it when needed. Distilled water is not needed for dilution. -The concentrated silver citrate can be sent to others, such as family,with dilution instructions. Of course, all that is meaningless if it is not safe. While I realize that turning blue is not life threating, I still put that in the not safe category. I got the following statistics from http://www.silvermedicine.org/argyria-cases.html: Argyria Case Reports: Argyria Cases Caused by the Use of Mild Silver Protein: 10 Argyria Cases Caused by the Use of Silver Citrate, Water OZ: 3 Argyria Cases Caused by the Use of ENIVA Colloidal Silver: 2 Argyria Cases Caused by the Use of Silver Nitrate: Numerous Argyria Cases Caused by the Use of Silver and Salts: 4 Argyria & Silver Poisoning Cases Caused by the Environmental Contamination: 4 Argyria Cases Caused by the Use of Improperly made Isolated Silver: 3 Argyria Cases Caused by the Use of Properly made Isolated Silver: 2 The number of Water Oz cases of Argyria are not much different than those of EIS but of course I am sure that there are many more users of EIS than Water Oz and so the statistics for Silver Citrate looks much better than they really are. From what I gathered, the Water Oz Argyria cases are from when Water Oz was a higher ppm than it is now (100 ppm now) and Water Oz was claiming that you could take unlimited (?) amounts without fear of Argyria. The maker of Silver 100, holder of the patent, recommends dosages that are no more than 25% of the EPA Oral RfD for silver per day and claims that to be safe from Argyria. Interestingly, the makers of Silver Citrate claim to be more effective than EIS because (1) the citrate prevents the silver from forming less effective silver salts/compounds and (2) The pathogens consider the citrate as food and so consume the Silver Citrate leading to their demise. I would be interested if you have any thoughts on this. Oh, you mention the potassium in the solution. This is what I found regarding that: "While the patent covers a broad range of substances, the company has chosen to use citrate as the complexing agent, and potassium as the counter-ion for maximum stability" _ Steve N -----Original Message----- From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2008 7:44 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CS>Making ionic silver from silver oxide That produces silver citrate, which is what Silver Oz is, although it will also have some potassium in it that I don't think Silver Oz has. A number of people have been reported to have turned blue from Silver Oz, since it is not colloidal silver at all. Silver citrate is easy to produce by running a current through water with cirtic acid added using silver electrodes. Marshall -- The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org To post, address your message to: [email protected] Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>
