Thank you both for discussing this issue of communication. I am learning that my own form of humor or speaking tongue in cheek is not always understood. I shall try to be forthright and write my posts with more gentleness. MW ----- Original Message ----- From: indi<mailto:[email protected]> To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 10:49 AM Subject: Re: CS>[List Owner] Standards and expectations... please read
Good point about the text medium, and I like your advice about dealing with it, too. I will try to follow that from now on. I know I can be somewhat impatient, but I'm not nearly as grumpy as some of my emails make me look. Thanks for setting such a good example for us. Cheers, indi On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 19:49:49 -5 "M. G. Devour" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Indi writes: > > Thanks. Yes, I feel a bit on the hot seat with a couple of people > > here. :) > > Yep! <grin> > > > I don't think of debate as hostility, but I have been reminded > > recently that some people do. So your point is a good one. Also I > > tend to forget that not everyone is as pedantic as I know can be at > > times. My "good enough" sometimes includes a lot of factors most > > people never think of. > > Oh, I know the temptation to be pedantic. Fight it quite often, > particularly in face-to-face encounters where I don't have as much > time to think about my wording. > > A key element in most such misunderstandings is that this medium, raw > text, lacks all the other elements essential to communicating nuance; > tone of voice, facial expression, body language, touch. > > Whatever you type comes across 5 to 10 times more harshly than you > intend. It is a good idea to always re-read what you type in the > worst possible tone of voice and see how aggressive, arrogant, > insulting, rude, or insensitive you can make it sound... Then try > writing it again to make it so the words actually communicate the > tone you want to project. > > I've been at this internet stuff for over 15 years now. I've written > probably at least 15,000 e-mail messages, usenet or forum postings. I > still work very hard to make sure each message I send is as gentle as > I can make it, of course with the rare exception of when I *want* to > be rude! <grin> > > Without thinking about it, most people fall into the trap of reading > their own words with subtlety and nuance, and others' as harshly as > possible. We must do just the opposite: Read your own words to others > as harshly as possible and then make them gentler; read others' words > as gently as possible and assume the best intentions possible. > > > > The other expectation I'd hope to see you scale back a little is > > > your belief that *anything* we could do here would result in > > > institutional acceptance of CS. > > > > Oh, I have already seen and accepted that legitimization is far > > from a common desire on this list. And that's fine, I guess I just > > didn't anticipate it. > > I imagine few of us would not want mainstream acceptance, but I think > most of us doubt it's worth waiting around for and some would fear > what degree of compromises or loss of freedom we'd suffer in the > process. > > Really, I'd say ours is more of a grass roots, bottom up rather than > institutional, top down approach. > > > There is a lot I didn't expect here, really. But I am glad to be on > > this list, there are some really intriguing people and ideas here, > > and a lot of experience. > > Yep, I think you got it! <smile> > > > Thanks for the help and the kind words. > > Thank you very much for your understanding. > > Peace, > > Mike D. > > [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] > [[email protected] ] > [Speaking only for myself... ] > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org<http://silverlist.org/> > > To post, address your message to: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> > >
