Hi Steve,

 

Ummm, well that's going to be a little tricky for me to explain.  Not wanting 
to open old wounds, and not having completed my electronics course, I can only 
say that I *surmise* or *presume* the following is what is occurring, whilst 
not necessarily understanding the 'scientifics' of it, of which I'm not 
particularly phased at this point in time as I can continue to study that 
aspect at my leasure.

 

Simplified, in my circuit I have a diode? LED? whatever they are called but 
these only allow the 'current'? to flow directional, from the anode to the 
cathode let's say, whereby predominantly ions may be produced, but when the 
switch is set in the position for 'current' to  flow from the cathode to the 
anode then the dynamics of the process would change and probably 'works' 
quicker as the conductivity of the water increases, this I figure will 
'encourage' particle clusters to become more predominant, hence possibly 
increasing the formation of particle cluster content.

 

It usually takes me around 2 to 2 1/2 hours, (dependant on all the factors 
associated with EIS production, as we all know), to produce around a 20 odd 
ppm, give or take, but during this time I *carefully* remove the electrodes 
from the water every 30 minutes to wipe any 'residue' off which may/will be 
present, and alternate the electrode polarity.  The above explanation is why I 
think I get the percentage of which I spoke.  I should add that I use my own 
home made magnetic stirrer also as I believe this is an important factor in my 
production process.

 

I had several samples laboratory tested, of varying colours, and one of those 
results, of a clear solution, came back with: 12mg/l soluble Ag(filtered thru a 
0.45 micron paper filter), 23.5 Total Ag (acidified HCL), giving 51/49 
ionic/particulate %.  These samples were done 18 days after production, well 
long enough for stabilization to have taken place.

 

Whilst not being able to go into any 'scientific specifics' regarding the 
above, I believe I understand how I get these results, and can alter that 
result accordingly.  This is where I can pursue the 'scientifics' of it at my 
leasure by examining more closely my units using DMM's and taking readings etc, 
frankly, I can't be bothered at this point in time, perhaps at a later date.

 

I have done considerable research since last here and have satisfied myself 
that my best method of deducing the quality of my product, failing suitable lab 
equipment setups in my kitchen, is by eyesight and observation of any 
settlement and/or plateout which may become apparent after a suitable 
'stabilizing' time period.  In the 'perfect world' I would ideally like to have 
*every* batch I produce lab analysed for a period of 6 months or so, then I 
would have my own 'research' material.

 

This is about the best I can do by way of answering your questions Steve.

 

N.


 


Date: Sun, 3 May 2009 19:56:55 -0500
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: CS>High particle EIS


Neville,
In another post you made the comment:
"In my experience, using my own equipment and production methods, I have gotten 
this ratio closer to 50/50."

What is your method and how are you determining the ratio?

 - Steve N 

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