I think you may find the common element on batches going yellow to be
Silver Oxide.
High concentrations of ions are more reactive than low concentrations as
there are more ions around to find a partner and make something out of
themselves.
Sorta like the chances of getting married and finding a new job are better
in the city than in the Montana countryside.
If the water has a lot of Ozone left in it, or dissolved Oxygen from the
electrolysis process or exposure to the air, the odds that an Ion will
oxidize goes up with the numbers of Ions in any given spot.
Once it does, it's a particle that has no charge and may attract other
particles as a nucleus, around which a larger crystal forms out of Metallic
particles and Silver Hydroxide particles.
Water contaminants could be acting as a catalyst and/or a structural
lattice interface to exacerbate the process of crystal growth.
All distilled water sold in the USA has been Ozonated.
One time I brewed a deep yellow batch, left the jug of water loosely
capped in a warm place and many gas bubbles formed on the sides of the jug.
I shook those loose and made another batch using the same setup with that
water..it did not go yellow, nor did any other batch made with that water.
Cool water can dissolve more gas into it than warm.
H2O2 destroys Silver Oxide, [Dip that black electrode in some and
observe] both clearing up the color and breaking apart crystals by removing
the crystals center, sending its fractal arms for a swim.
The yellow color is due to, both, pigmentation AND refractive size properties.
Blue and red, having more mass around the pigmented center would dominate
the visible color with refractive effects by masking the yellow pigment,
yet H2O2 still removes those colors, presumably for the same reasons.
"Metallic" silver particles can be purely reflective in size and display
a color when around that color, particularly yellows and greens, but when
removed from the proximity of those colors and looked 'though' in full
spectrum light, will appear to be colorless.
I've grown mirror like silver flakes big enough to used in a snow scene
paper weight or a metal flake paint job by brewing the batch with added
H2O2 ..and a lot of it.
Eventually, the H2O2 oxidized the flakes and that batch went yellow along
with black balls of Oxides on the bottom.
Just a "little bit" of H2O2 might just yield a pure silver colloid...maybe.
Oddly, dropping a piece of clean Copper into a batch will eventually pull
all the silver out of the water starting with particles first, and drop it
all to the bottom as mixture of black Silver Oxide coated shiny metallic
Silver. It's a fluffy black, but smears shiny with pressure applied.
The Copper stays clean.
I don't know what H2O2 does to that substance...didn't try it.
Ode
At 02:11 PM 5/4/2009 +0100, you wrote:
Hi Steve, you said you 'sometimes generate a yellow solution'. Can you
tell me if you deliberately did this and if so, how? Only I have just
tried to make a stronger solution of silver by running my automatic
generator using RP the when it turned off, I unplugged it and then started
it up manually. I then let it run for another three hours. This made EIS
at approximately 26ppm after settling. The only thing was, that after
three days it turned yellow so I'm wondering why this was. Any thoughts? Dee
-------Original Message-------
From: <mailto:[email protected]>Norton, Steve
Date: 04/05/2009 05:12:05
To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>High particle EIS
Neville,
Thanks for the info. I will think on it a while. The reason I asked was
not to question your claim but I also prefer to increase the amount of
small silver particles even at the expense of silver ions (up to a point).
I sometimes generate a yellow solution, let it stabilize and then add H2O2
to convert the agglomerated silver and some of the ionic silver to small
silver particles. I do this because it would appear that the ionic silver,
converted to silver chloride in the stomach, gives a quick punch while the
silver particles gives an extended effect. I don't have proof of this.
Additionally in vitro tests have shown that silver particles work directly
on bacteria and viruses as well as the ions so why not have plenty of both.
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