Maybe this is not a very reliable source
The American Heritage® Science Dictionary Copyright © 2005 by Houghton
Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company.
Seems there are a bunch of people grouped together to perpetrate a very
large fraud to benefit themselves.
http://dprogram.net/2009/12/09/video-lord-monckton-returns-to-alex-jones-tv-reveals-scientific-fraud-at-copenhagen/
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From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: "Steve" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:17 PM
Subject: Re: CS>No wonder there's an explosion of:
Of course CO2 is not a pollutant, and all the questionable science is simply
a convenient vehicle for those who want to control every aspect of our
existence. Between the "environment" and "reforming health care", there is
no limit to the curbs that can (and will) be imposed on our freedom. The
sheep are about to buy the "it's for your own good" line one final, fatal
time.
---- Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
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Well, if that's how THEY define pollutants, then all substances could be
considered pollutants, I suppose. All it takes is to be in a harmful
concentration. Oxygen, for example. At 21% everyone loves it, but increase
it to 25% or higher and you have big trouble.
To call CO2 a pollutant is taking a theoretical leap in my opinion. The
media has blown the thing out of proportion I think. Some folks theorize
that increasing CO2 levels cause global warming. But, this hasn't been
proven. Other folks theorize that CO2 levels increase after a warming trend.
And some site I found today published a researcher's analysis of the
historical studies of CO2 concentration. His conclusion was that the
researcher's that everyone rely on conveniently ignored historical data that
didn't coincide with their theories.
All this stuff tends to give me headaches as I figure that what I think or
do, in the end, won't really make any difference at all to anyone.
Time for me to sit back with a glass of wine and contemplate how nice it
would be if global warming would actually live up to it's threats/promises.
Cheers
--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Dan Nave <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Dan Nave <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CS>No wonder there's an explosion of:
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 10:44 PM
The American Heritage® Science Dictionary Copyright © 2005 by Houghton
Mifflin Company. Published by Houghton Mifflin Company. All rights reserved.
pollutant
"A substance or condition that contaminates air, water, or soil. Pollutants
can be artificial substances, such as pesticides and PCBs, or naturally
occurring substances, such as oil or carbon dioxide, that occur in harmful
concentrations in a given environment. Heat transmitted to natural waterways
through warm-water discharge from power plants and uncontained radioactivity
from nuclear wastes are also considered pollutants."
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 7:29 PM, Steve <[email protected]> wrote:
CO2 is not a pollutant. Without CO2 in the air, plants would die. It's a
natural component of our ecosphere. Animals breathe in oxygen and breathe
out CO2. Plants breathe in CO2 and breathe out oxygen.
Of course, Nixon's EPA has declared CO2 to be a 'pollutant.' Kind of. It's
mostly crazy double-speak, in my opinion. Here's a link to what appears to
be an unbiased article on the topic -
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124001537515830975.html
To put things in perspective, Nitrogen makes up 78% of our atmosphere.
Oxygen makes up 21%. Argon is 0.93%, then CO2 comes along at 4th place at
0.038%. The remaining 0.032% is divided up between a bunch of other gases
not worth mentioning for this discussion.
I find it hard to put these kind of percentages in perspective so I'll
compare this to a football field. 100 yards, 300 feet, or 14,400 inches,
however you want to look at it.
So, between nitrogen and oxygen, we use up the first 99 yards of the
football field. That leaves 1 yard, or 3 feet. Argon takes up 2.79 feet
which leaves us with .21 feet or 2.52 inches.
So, CO2 takes up a little more than 1 1/3 inches out of the whole football
field. So, the man-made climate change theorists are trying to panic us
because CO2 has gone up by
Of course, this is only the 'dry' atmosphere. Water vapor is, like CO2,
considered to be a greenhouse gas, because it tends to hold warmth in and
prevents it from escaping to outer space. Depending on the area, time of day
and season, the atmosphere can range between 1% and 5% of water vapor.
So, the EPA picks on CO2 but not water vapor even though they both have the
same impact. I'm thinking water vapor has a MUCH larger impact than CO2
because on that old football field it would take up anywhere from 36 inches
to 180 inches compared to CO2's lousy 1 1/3 inches.
--- On Wed, 12/9/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: CS>No wonder there's an explosion of:
To: [email protected]
Cc: "Annie B Smythe" <[email protected]>
Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 6:02 PM
Don't worry, at least they're focu$ing on the most deadly pollutant of
all...CO2.
---- Annie B Smythe <[email protected]> wrote:
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Diabetes, Cancer, ADD, and every other disease under the sun. How can we
live with all this crap in the food, and water, and air, and soil, in
everything around us? And minority babies? We all breath the same air,
and drink the same water, and use the same products, and eat food grown
from the same soils. There ought to be riots in the streets over this.
http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_19801.cfm
And they target CS as a pesticide? I think people have lost their minds!
Instead of concentrating on ridding us of the really lethal stuff,
they're shilly shallying around with harmless stuff. And making a big
stink about it. CS isn't lethal to people, plants or animals, like this
other bunch of junk.
Annie
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