Good post Ode, another to keep. dee On 26 Jan 2010, at 11:18, Ode Coyote wrote:
> > > The problem with silver chloride isn't so much the chloride but that people > didn't know how strong they were making it when following that 1 PPM per > minute rule that went along with the old methods and using a generator that > limited current way higher than is useful for making CS.....more to prevent > fires if the electrodes shorted together. > > The reality is more like PPM per minute/ per minute and in 5 minutes you > could be at 5 PPM or 50 and not know it, depending on how much salt. > > You have to "retain" about 3 to 4 grams of silver to turn blue [or grey ] > Doing that with a *normal* metals elimination system is virtually impossible > at 20 PPM and under at a *normal* 98% elimination rate over 48 hours. > If your elimination system ISN'T normal....it could well be possible to go > Smurf. > If that system is dealing with a lot of copper, for instance, and you aren't > getting enough selenium for it to replenish the raw material it uses, it > could be compromised. > > It's also possible to make clear CS at 50 to 75 PPM...even 100 PPM, IFFY, but > possible and not likely to stay clear for very long. > > I once ran a batch up to to 79 uS [probably somewhere around 100 PPM] that > stayed clear for 6 months, then went deep yellow and dropped back to 30 uS > with no dropout or plating of the container [the silver was still in > there]...and a few drops of H2O2 cleared it up again. > Beyond around 30 uS, meters become useless as conductivity rise rate goes > nonlinear at a constant current, slowing WAY down, while the constant current > ensures a linear ion emission rate. > IOW Just because it's clear, doesn't ALWAYS mean it isn't WAY STRONG. > > Another thing. > If you put a small piece of copper in a batch and let it sit, it will pull > every bit of silver out of the water in a few days..so..could it be possible > that an overload of copper in the body was doing that..IN..the body? [And you > weren't eliminating ANY silver? ] > > That may also have something to do with your circulation problem. Was it > that, or numbness that made you *think* it was a circulation problem? > Copper overload attacks the nerves..the Niacin may have flushed it out. > It takes very little copper to damage a nerve, but a lot of silver. > Had you supplemented selenium, [which is key to the removal of both silver > and copper..but..is there a preference as to which goes first?] you may have > experienced the same relief and maybe not gone grey. > > With so much interaction and possible variation it's really hard to draw any > conclusions that aren't just drawings...but it's pretty clear that > "something" wasn't **normal** in the light of many many thousands of people > having NO idea what they were doing for 30 years, didn't go grey....many > using zero caution with NO clue and maybe 6 cases of Smurf. > > "Virtually impossible" isn't an absolute...it means highly unlikely...risk > factor VERY low. > But there are always those 1 in a million exceptions when no two people are > the same. > > Caution and wind don't mix? > > The media doctored Stan Jones' photos....could'a done the same with Pauls. > > ode > > > > At 11:06 AM 1/25/2010 -0800, you wrote: >> How true ! (almost) >> Except for me, I have very few days that someone doesn't ask me why my >> complection is so gray. >> Back when everyone was using salt to get a yellow color I was making >> clear CS without any impurities as far as I could determine. After about >> eight years of regular use I have reached the point that my color has >> changed noticeably . It started with blue moons and progressed from there. >> To be very forthright and honest I believe my problem was exacerbated >> by my treatment of lack of circulation in my feet with Niacin which opened >> the smallest blood vessels and allowed the silver to migrate into my skin >> where the flush occured. >> As far as the "Blue man" is concerned I would say he fell into some Rit >> or some kind of food dye as Argeria only affects the head not the hands >> (other than the moons), and body in general. >> People denying Argeria just might be wrong especially those that tell you >> that the pure stuff can't give it to you as you would drown first from that >> much water--Well if you swallowed it all at once they might have a point. >> I hope someone pays attention to this. I've posted on this before with no >> one responding. >> Dave >> >> Summarised: >> If you cant do the time don't do the crime >> Or >> If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen >> >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Marshall Dudley >> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: >>> The blue man has nothing to do with colloidal silver. He was taking silver >>> chloride, which we all know will cause this condition, my web site was >>> warning about it years before he got his condition. No one has ever been >>> reported getting argyria from real EIS, although some of have gotten some >>> gray fingernail moons. >>> >>> Marshall >>> >>> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] wrote: >>>> I understand, >>>> Now I am wondering if I should treat my mare with this or not ? I read >>>> an article referencing that "Blue Man" and his issues and experiences ... >>>> someone please speak up. >>>> JoAnne >>>> In a message dated 1/22/2010 3:23:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] writes: >>>> >>>> Can anyone discredit that study, how it was performed, and its >>>> conclusions? Here is the link again: >>>> ><<http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/silver-is-potent-neurotoxicant/>http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/silver-is-potent-neurotoxicant/>http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/silver-is-potent-neurotoxicant/ >>>> >>>> >>>> I mean aside from saying "it ain't true" can someone really >>>> deconstruct it scientifically? >>>> thanks, >>>> sol >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>>> >>>> Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: >>>> <http://silverlist.org>http://silverlist.org >>>> >>>> To post, address your message to: >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >>>> >>>> Address Off-Topic messages to: >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] >>>> >>>> The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... >>>> >>>> List maintainer: Mike Devour >>>> <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> >>>> >
