The problem with silver chloride isn't so much the chloride but that people didn't know how strong they were making it when following that 1 PPM per minute rule that went along with the old methods and using a generator that limited current way higher than is useful for making CS.....more to prevent fires if the electrodes shorted together.

The reality is more like PPM per minute/ per minute and in 5 minutes you could be at 5 PPM or 50 and not know it, depending on how much salt.

You have to "retain" about 3 to 4 grams of silver to turn blue [or grey ]
Doing that with a *normal* metals elimination system is virtually impossible at 20 PPM and under at a *normal* 98% elimination rate over 48 hours. If your elimination system ISN'T normal....it could well be possible to go Smurf. If that system is dealing with a lot of copper, for instance, and you aren't getting enough selenium for it to replenish the raw material it uses, it could be compromised.

It's also possible to make clear CS at 50 to 75 PPM...even 100 PPM, IFFY, but possible and not likely to stay clear for very long.

I once ran a batch up to to 79 uS [probably somewhere around 100 PPM] that stayed clear for 6 months, then went deep yellow and dropped back to 30 uS with no dropout or plating of the container [the silver was still in there]...and a few drops of H2O2 cleared it up again. Beyond around 30 uS, meters become useless as conductivity rise rate goes nonlinear at a constant current, slowing WAY down, while the constant current ensures a linear ion emission rate.
 IOW  Just because it's clear, doesn't ALWAYS mean it isn't WAY STRONG.

Another thing.
If you put a small piece of copper in a batch and let it sit, it will pull every bit of silver out of the water in a few days..so..could it be possible that an overload of copper in the body was doing that..IN..the body? [And you weren't eliminating ANY silver? ]

That may also have something to do with your circulation problem. Was it that, or numbness that made you *think* it was a circulation problem?
 Copper overload attacks the nerves..the Niacin may have flushed it out.
 It takes very little copper to damage a nerve, but a lot of silver.
Had you supplemented selenium, [which is key to the removal of both silver and copper..but..is there a preference as to which goes first?] you may have experienced the same relief and maybe not gone grey.

With so much interaction and possible variation it's really hard to draw any conclusions that aren't just drawings...but it's pretty clear that "something" wasn't **normal** in the light of many many thousands of people having NO idea what they were doing for 30 years, didn't go grey....many using zero caution with NO clue and maybe 6 cases of Smurf.

"Virtually impossible" isn't an absolute...it means highly unlikely...risk factor VERY low. But there are always those 1 in a million exceptions when no two people are the same.

 Caution and wind don't mix?

The media doctored Stan Jones' photos....could'a done the same with Pauls.

ode



At 11:06 AM 1/25/2010 -0800, you wrote:
  How true ! (almost)
Except for me, I have very few days that someone doesn't ask me why my complection is so gray.
Back when everyone was using salt to get a yellow color I was making
clear CS without any impurities as far as I could determine. After about eight years of regular use I have reached the point that my color has changed noticeably . It started with blue moons and progressed from there.
 To be very forthright and honest I believe my problem was exacerbated
by my treatment of lack of circulation in my feet with Niacin which opened the smallest blood vessels and allowed the silver to migrate into my skin where the flush occured.
 As far as the "Blue man" is concerned I would say he fell into some Rit
or some kind of food dye as Argeria only affects the head not the hands (other than the moons), and body in general. People denying Argeria just might be wrong especially those that tell you that the pure stuff can't give it to you as you would drown first from that much water--Well if you swallowed it all at once they might have a point. I hope someone pays attention to this. I've posted on this before with no one responding.
Dave

 Summarised:
If you cant do the time don't do the crime
Or
If you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen




On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Marshall Dudley <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote:
The blue man has nothing to do with colloidal silver. He was taking silver chloride, which we all know will cause this condition, my web site was warning about it years before he got his condition. No one has ever been reported getting argyria from real EIS, although some of have gotten some gray fingernail moons.

Marshall


<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] wrote:
I understand,
Now I am wondering if I should treat my mare with this or not ? I read an article referencing that "Blue Man" and his issues and experiences ... someone please speak up.
 JoAnne
In a message dated 1/22/2010 3:23:43 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] writes:

   Can anyone discredit that study, how it was performed, and its
   conclusions? Here is the link again:

 
><<http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/silver-is-potent-neurotoxicant/>http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/silver-is-potent-neurotoxicant/>http://www.environmentalhealthnews.org/ehs/newscience/silver-is-potent-neurotoxicant/


   I mean aside from saying "it ain't true" can someone really
   deconstruct it scientifically?
   thanks,
   sol


   --
   The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver.

Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: <http://silverlist.org>http://silverlist.org

To post, address your message to: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]

Address Off-Topic messages to: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]

   The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down...

List maintainer: Mike Devour <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>