Hello Ode, When I studied chaos theory in school I was sure this was something that I would never be able to actually apply. Now I am not so sure...
I have played with little children who can do a great job of connecting the dots, and do so effortlessly. Perhaps we just need to be a little more creative in our approach. On the other hand, who needs dots anyway... :) Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:02 AM Subject: Re: CS>moon on fingernails? -- how much do you use? > However, the body is a dynamic chemical soup loaded with intelligent ion > exchanges and [to coin a phrase] nano battery effects. > Anything done in a test tube isn't going to tell the whole story. > Given individual differences and temporary conditions, there may not even > BE a whole story to tell. > > This is like a game of connect the dots with most of the dots missing. > > Ode > > > At 04:59 PM 2/5/2010 -0600, you wrote: > >I was skirting this because it is a secondary issue. Silver ions are very > >active and will form compounds with the first substance it can. Silver > >ions do not survive the digestive system as free ions. They probably react > >with stomach acid to primarily form silver chloride. The silver may also > >react with other substances such as ammopnia to form other compounds. But > >they do not remain as silver ions. > >- Steve N > > > > > >---------- > >From: poast <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >Sent: Fri Feb 05 16:03:24 2010 > >Subject: Re: CS> > > > >Hello Steve, > > > >OK, I am beginning to understand. > > > >I have looked at the Altman paper, but have not studied it. I will take > >another look at it, in detail. > > > >If I may present a somewhat weak argument... > > > >Doesn't it stand to reason that if you take more, you will not only ingest > >more ions, but also more particles. Perhaps the elimination through the > >kidney is just because there is more of both in the body... > > > >Back to the books, for now. > > > >Thanks. > > > >Tom > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <mailto:[email protected]>Norton, Steve > >To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] > >Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:43 AM > >Subject: CS> > > > >Tom, > > > >I am not suggesting daily use over use as needed. There was a time when I > >first used EIS I used it several times a day. It allowed me to get off a > >long term dependence on antibiotics. Now I take it when I think I need it. > > > >As to why I think that large doses of EIS do not significantly increase > >the effectiveness of EIS is a little more complex and somewhat > >controversial. It has to do with how EIS is processed in the body. The > >best clue to that comes from the Altman Silver Excretion Study. You can > >find the study at the Silver Medicine web site. Unfortunately the study > >pnly provides clues but not definitive answers. That is where the > >interpretation I mentioned in may previous post is important. > > > >IMO the important issue is whether the silver eliminated by the kidney is > >is in solution or particulate form. Silver in solution is far more active > >than silver in particulate form. There are varying opinions on that > >question. One of the more popular theories is that it is a soluble > >silver/ammonia compound is formed and since it contains ammonia it is > >removed by the kidney. However I have found that one of the most likely > >ammonia compounds, Ag(NH3)2, is eliminated by the liver and not the > >kidney. While I cannot say it with absolute certainly, my research > >indicates that all silver compounds in solution are removed by the liver. > > > >For various reasons it appaers that taking large ammounts of EIS > >predominately increases the amount of silver that excretes through the > >kidney which is therefore the much less effective particulate form. So I > >suggested two complementary methods that will increase the silver that is > >in solution while reducing the amount in particulate form. One is holding > >additional EIS in the mouth to allow transport of silver ions through the > >mucosal tissues without swallowing. The other is contained in the note > >regarding the use of Gatortade. > >I hope this helps. > > > > - Steve > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: poast <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > >Sent: Fri Feb 05 11:03:13 2010 > >Subject: Re: CS>moon on fingernails? -- how much do you use? > > > >Hello Steve, > > > >I am totally new to EIS, so please be gentle with me... > > > >Your opinion seems to be that the best use EIS is to maintain a level in the > >body through daily use. You also indicate that you don't think that a large > >dose of EIS is effective. > > > >As I ponder this I find myself finding it difficult to understand. It would > >seem that if your body was "invaded" by a bunch of "bad guys" they would > >overwhelm the "good guys" in your body, and an influx of a large "good guy" > >army would help win the war. > > > >I know this is over simplified, but isn't the idea to expose the "bad guys" > >to a concentration of the EIS? > > > >I am probably missing a lot, but any "big picture" concepts would be greatly > >appreciated. > > > >Tom > > > -- > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Instructions for unsubscribing are posted at: http://silverlist.org > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > > Address Off-Topic messages to: [email protected] > > The Silver List and Off Topic List archives are currently down... > > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > >
