[I have played with little children who can do a great job of connecting the
dots, and do so effortlessly.]

-Quick, get them into politics, there may be hope for us all yet <g>.

 

N.
 
> From: [email protected]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: CS>moon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?
> Date: Sat, 6 Feb 2010 15:33:05 -0800
> 
> Hello Ode,
> 
> When I studied chaos theory in school I was sure this was something that I
> would never be able to actually apply. Now I am not so sure...
> 
> I have played with little children who can do a great job of connecting the
> dots, and do so effortlessly. Perhaps we just need to be a little more
> creative in our approach.
> 
> On the other hand, who needs dots anyway... :)
> 
> Tom
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 5:02 AM
> Subject: Re: CS>moon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?
> 
> 
> > However, the body is a dynamic chemical soup loaded with intelligent ion
> > exchanges and [to coin a phrase] nano battery effects.
> > Anything done in a test tube isn't going to tell the whole story.
> > Given individual differences and temporary conditions, there may not
> even
> > BE a whole story to tell.
> >
> > This is like a game of connect the dots with most of the dots missing.
> >
> > Ode
> >
> >
> > At 04:59 PM 2/5/2010 -0600, you wrote:
> > >I was skirting this because it is a secondary issue. Silver ions are very
> > >active and will form compounds with the first substance it can. Silver
> > >ions do not survive the digestive system as free ions. They probably
> react
> > >with stomach acid to primarily form silver chloride. The silver may also
> > >react with other substances such as ammopnia to form other compounds. But
> > >they do not remain as silver ions.
> > >- Steve N
> > >
> > >
> > >----------
> > >From: poast <[email protected]>
> > >To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > >Sent: Fri Feb 05 16:03:24 2010
> > >Subject: Re: CS>
> > >
> > >Hello Steve,
> > >
> > >OK, I am beginning to understand.
> > >
> > >I have looked at the Altman paper, but have not studied it. I will take
> > >another look at it, in detail.
> > >
> > >If I may present a somewhat weak argument...
> > >
> > >Doesn't it stand to reason that if you take more, you will not only
> ingest
> > >more ions, but also more particles. Perhaps the elimination through the
> > >kidney is just because there is more of both in the body...
> > >
> > >Back to the books, for now.
> > >
> > >Thanks.
> > >
> > >Tom
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: <mailto:[email protected]>Norton, Steve
> > >To: <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
> > >Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 10:43 AM
> > >Subject: CS>
> > >
> > >Tom,
> > >
> > >I am not suggesting daily use over use as needed. There was a time when I
> > >first used EIS I used it several times a day. It allowed me to get off a
> > >long term dependence on antibiotics. Now I take it when I think I need
> it.
> > >
> > >As to why I think that large doses of EIS do not significantly increase
> > >the effectiveness of EIS is a little more complex and somewhat
> > >controversial. It has to do with how EIS is processed in the body. The
> > >best clue to that comes from the Altman Silver Excretion Study. You can
> > >find the study at the Silver Medicine web site. Unfortunately the study
> > >pnly provides clues but not definitive answers. That is where the
> > >interpretation I mentioned in may previous post is important.
> > >
> > >IMO the important issue is whether the silver eliminated by the kidney is
> > >is in solution or particulate form. Silver in solution is far more active
> > >than silver in particulate form. There are varying opinions on that
> > >question. One of the more popular theories is that it is a soluble
> > >silver/ammonia compound is formed and since it contains ammonia it is
> > >removed by the kidney. However I have found that one of the most likely
> > >ammonia compounds, Ag(NH3)2, is eliminated by the liver and not the
> > >kidney. While I cannot say it with absolute certainly, my research
> > >indicates that all silver compounds in solution are removed by the liver.
> > >
> > >For various reasons it appaers that taking large ammounts of EIS
> > >predominately increases the amount of silver that excretes through the
> > >kidney which is therefore the much less effective particulate form. So I
> > >suggested two complementary methods that will increase the silver that is
> > >in solution while reducing the amount in particulate form. One is holding
> > >additional EIS in the mouth to allow transport of silver ions through the
> > >mucosal tissues without swallowing. The other is contained in the note
> > >regarding the use of Gatortade.
> > >I hope this helps.
> > >
> > > - Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: poast <[email protected]>
> > >To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > >Sent: Fri Feb 05 11:03:13 2010
> > >Subject: Re: CS>moon on fingernails? -- how much do you use?
> > >
> > >Hello Steve,
> > >
> > >I am totally new to EIS, so please be gentle with me...
> > >
> > >Your opinion seems to be that the best use EIS is to maintain a level in
> the
> > >body through daily use. You also indicate that you don't think that a
> large
> > >dose of EIS is effective.
> > >
> > >As I ponder this I find myself finding it difficult to understand. It
> would
> > >seem that if your body was "invaded" by a bunch of "bad guys" they would
> > >overwhelm the "good guys" in your body, and an influx of a large "good
> guy"
> > >army would help win the war.
> > >
> > >I know this is over simplified, but isn't the idea to expose the "bad
> guys"
> > >to a concentration of the EIS?
> > >
> > >I am probably missing a lot, but any "big picture" concepts would be
> greatly
> > >appreciated.
> > >
> > >Tom
> >
> >
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