Hello Malcolm, While I totally agree with you, it is just too much fun to simply stop. This batch will be played with to death and never consumed.
The saga continues. I decided to add some baking soda to the solution to balance the PH. The PH had dropped to about 3 and I brought it back up to 6.8. Next I added some ascorbic acid and it turned brown, then almost immediately turned clear again. I added more and the same thing happened. More is added and the same thing happens again. Finally I ended up with a gray layer at the bottom of the jar, but the rest of the solution is clear. I just shook it up to see what happens. The PH is now back to 4.6. Very interesting stuff. I hold it up to the light with the sun at my back and it looks bluish gray. When I turn around and look at the sun through the solution it looks dark amber. I find it interesting that I still have a great Tyndal effect and that the solution is staying clear. Oh well, I will exercise (or as Dok commented exOrcise) it a few more times and see what happens. Thanks for your help in trying to figure this out. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Malcolm" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 11:11 AM Subject: Re: CS>YO YO EIS > Hi Tom, > > We've reached (and surpassed!) the limits of my chemistry education; I'd > stick with either the citric acid protocol that Steve Norton has put > forth, or straight EIS. I doubt there's anything to be gained by > titrating higher concentrations of Ascorbic acid against hydrogen > peroxide with a vague grey cloud of silver-whatever-ide as an indicator; > stick to plain silver citrate. Adding H2O2 to EIS? I dunno, some > people do, some don't. I make mine as clean as I can and take it > straight. I, nor most people have much real knowledge of what goes on > inside the body - there could be twenty different reaction intermediates > between "what goes in, and what comes out," and most of us none the > wiser. Check out the Wiki article for just how weird ascorbic acid > reactions are as a tiny example of that! > > Take care, > Malcolm > > On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 21:21 -0800, poast wrote: > > Hello Malcolm, > > > > OK, so I am seeing a build up on ascorbic acid ions. > > > > Do you think this solution is good for anything? > > > > Would you drink it? > > > > Does a reaction something like this go on inside the body? > > > > Tom > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Malcolm" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:01 PM > > Subject: Re: CS>YO YO EIS > > > > > > > Hi, > > > My best guess; you're measuring the conductivity of a weak acid, > > > ascorbic. It likes to interact with hydrogen peroxide. Here's the > > > story from wiki, and I suspect the silver ion is just getting booted > > > around becoming an oxide, then an ion, etc. Dunno; Marshall or Steve > > > are the chemists, but the reaction between H2O2 and ascorbic stops the > > > classic free-radical 'Jacob's ladder' of monoatomic oxygen. > > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascorbic_acid > > > > > > Take care, > > > Malcolm > > > > > > -- > > The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. > > Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org > > > > Unsubscribe: > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > Archives: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html > > > > Off-Topic discussions: <mailto:[email protected]> > > List Owner: Mike Devour <mailto:[email protected]> > > > > >
