I use the following for reference on ultrasonic cleaners. It is
primarily for industrial applications and has a lot of good technical
information.

http://www.tmasc.com/ultrasonic_cleaning_process.htm

It gives a formula for recommended power levels in an ultrasonic
cleaner:

"Choosing the correct power level for an ultrasonic tank
The average Watts per gallon of ultrasonics should be between 50 to 100
Watts. This is the average rating and can be adjusted dependent on the
cleaning application. To calculate the power requirements use the
following formula; 

 L x(in) W(in) x. (H -2") /231*100=Avg. Watts power. It is important to
remember that ultrasonic companies can rate the watts of ultrasonic
energy in two ways; Peak & Average. Peak watts are the start up
requirement and Average Watts are the continuous operating wattage. Base
all calculations on Average Watts."


This would mean that for a 2.5l cleaner such as that sold by Harbor
Freight, the power of the ultrasonics should be in the 33 to 66 watt
range. That puts the Harbor Freight unit at the top of the recommended
range. I am not surprised that the heater is included as part of the
rating. Harbor Freight is somewhat careful in their description of the
product: " Five preset cycles take the guesswork out of cleaning. 160
watts provide more ultrasonic cleaning action. Heated-water function is
available when needed for tougher cleaning tasks." Generally, heating
improves the cleaning action of the unit and therefore could be
considered as part of the " ultrasonic cleaning action". Based on the
reference above, I would not expect higher power levels except when the
volume of the cleaning tank is larger. But for liposomal encapsulation,
the heating is not a desired feature. 
My guess is that laboratory grade ultrasonic cleaners will not provide
any higher Watts per gallon.

 - Steve N


-----Original Message-----
From: maniaka rose [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 5:16 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>Sonic cleaners

Oh, excellent idea Steve, just excellent.  Humidifiers are in
abundance in thrift stores.

can you comment on the wattage issue?  i take it from this post on
another list

<<<It's really too bad that so many people are fooled into buying this
model thinking that the ultrasonic transducer is working with 160
watts of power.

It's only 70W, which is twice the power of the small Harbor Freight
model (35W). The heater uses about 90W.
http://www.lightinthebox.com/09-New-Edition--Digital-2-5-Liters-Ultrason
ic-Cleaner-TSLR1030-CD-4820-_p71747.html
This is probably accurate as the heaters typically use much more power
than the ultrasonic transducer.

Even Brooks seems to think it's 160W (according to his comments).
Harbor Freight's current ad states: "160 watts provide more ultrasonic
cleaning action".

Many models sold to dentists and doctors for hundreds of dollars more
only use around 50 to 100 watts for the cleaning function. >>>

thanks so much Steve for your reply,

rose



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