At 08:41 PM 9/3/2010 -0700, you wrote:
Thanks for your reply.
I know I could have gone cheaper, but I saw that the company had a track
record of a number of years with seemingly many satisfied customers.
## What they don't tell you about is the dis-satisfied customers.
They write their own record and own the blog.
Yeah, I concur with you on some of the sensationalistic promotion of the
product.
As far as the timer the company provides and distilled water consistency
yeilding good product. I am not an Electrical engineer, but it is my
opinion that a range of very acceptable product can be determined by
factoring in the use of the recommended amount (about 1 quart) of
distilled water for the fixed amount of time that it would take to meet a
certain standard which was factored, or formulated, in in the design of
the unit. No?
## No, not by any means but sheer accident.
They are counting on most people being non engineers.
That's the point.. The Design of the unit is *lacking* important
functions. [Although eyeballing the LED brightness will help, but "how dim"
without a reference is a bit less than exact and what does that mean in
terms of process time when the difference is nowhere near linear? Add or
subtract one hour or 5 ? ]
VERY small differences in water quality make BIG differences in time and no
two jugs of water are the same except by accident.
I've seen differences as high as 6 hours in just an 8 oz batch...quarts, up
to 14 hours.
Get a conductivity meter, make time over conductivity graphs and you'll
see. [They don't sell meters or even suggest they exist, do they? ]
To get a seat of the pants handle on the deal, compare LED brightness with
electrodes shorted together [max current flow] to brightness with
electrodes in the water. When there IS no difference..THEN..start the timer.
You could install a comparison test button to momentarily short circuit
the electrode output without taking them out of the water.
Open up the box and install a tap off the electrode connections so you can
monitor progress with a volt meter. That'll tell you a big story too.
If the CS goes grey after exposure to sunlight, the bubbler is dissolving
CO2 into the water to make Silver Carbonate, plus whatever else might be in
the air like Sulphur Dioxide or household cleaner fumes, de-oderizers etc.
If your silverware tends to tarnish, you have Sulphur in your air.
OK, now I'm curious but nowhere near willing to spend over $200 to find out
what I probably already know.
If you will send your gen to me, I'll install both a current draw
comparison button and a voltage tap.... just to get a peek inside the
box...and send you a free meter when I return it to you.
..might even monitor a batch and draw up a conductivity rise / voltage drop
/ time plot chart you can use to set your timer from the full current draw
point.
Still a dorkey way to do things, but at least you can do it.
PO Box 13
Moncure, NC 27559
PS Both Trem [silvergen] and I show a photo of what's inside...no "hiding".
Doesn't mean you'll know what it is, but at least you know there's
something in there to not understand.
ode
Have an enjoyable Labor Day weekend,
John
--- On Wed, 9/1/10, jaxi <jaxi.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: jaxi <jaxi.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: CS>Silver Generators
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 1:20 PM
I'm glad it is working for you. I think it seems over priced and I
question some of the claims they make - but I'm no expert. I'll let the
experts on the list speak on the merits of machine and it's ability to do
what they say it does.
I got my silverpuppy plus the magnetic stirrer for less than just that
unit. It does not appear to shut off when the ppm reaches a certain
amount but instead when your $5 or less timer goes off, I find that a bit
suspect, since we have discussed how the water you start with can impact
production time and this method does not take that into account at all.
I also found their website sensationalized and hard sellish. That always
puts me off and makes me suspicious. But that's me.
Jaxi
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 11:50 AM, j petras <jpetras...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I happen to use the Silver Edge microparticle generator. I have been
using it a relatively short time and am thus far pleased. User friendly,
no muss or fuss - I like the idea of the bubbler, as a solution mixer
during the process...also, the auto timer which I set and forget. It
produces consistently clear product.
Their website also has an abundant amount of info and research on the
product and CS and it's use.
Does anyone else have a Silver Edge, who has used it a long period and
cares to comment on your satisfaction or dissatisfaction with it?
Best,
John
--- On Wed, 9/1/10, jaxi <jaxi.sch...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: jaxi <jaxi.sch...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: CS>Silver Generators
To: silver-list@eskimo.com
Date: Wednesday, September 1, 2010, 11:59 AM
I would second that. I did the same thing. Shopped, compared and
settled on the silverpuppy. Also did the full package with a stirrer and
large mouth adapter. I did not get the reader (because I'm poor) but
will likely invest in one eventually.
The animals and I have been very pleased with the results. And honestly
it makes it so simple and easy to make. No fuss no muss. The output is
always clear to a very faint yellow. I make one to two quarts a day
because I provide it to the dogs and cats in bowls next to their water
bowls so they can drink as much as they'd like. Interestingly their
intake has gone down a bit the last few days, so I finally managed to get
ahead of them in production and could probably let my puppy rest for a
day or two.
Jaxi
PS: silvergen also makes excellent EIS generators from the comments I
have read from folks who have their generators ... so I don't think you'd
go wrong going with them either
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:21 AM, Paula Samuels Anthis
<<http://mc/compose?to=npalacios...@yahoo.com>npalacios...@yahoo.com> wrote:
I absolutely appreciate my Silver Puppy from
<http://silverpuppy.com/>silverpuppy.com
Easy to use with great instructions, auto turn off or manual for higher
than 15 ppm, consistently clear brew and steadily improving health for
both of us and for friends with whom we share our silver water. The
choice of Silver Puppy was after MUCH consideration of what is available
in the market place. And as I was a newbie, I bought all the bells and
whistles - generator, stirrer, CMO-100 for reading the before and after
approximate ppm, ring to adapt puppy generator to wide mouth jars,
etc. I would still all do that to satisfy my wanting to "do" everything
I could to make an excellent silver brew. Silver Puppy site has really
thorough information so do not hurry through that site like I did - take
time to smellall the roses of invormation for us tha Ken has taken the
time to cultivate and share..
Sincerely, Paula in Palacios
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Wednesday, September 1, 2010 8:31 AM
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