Ah-HAH!!  That's what I was looking for!  Thank you very, very much.
MA


----- Original Message ----
> From: Marshall Dudley <[email protected]>
> 
>   Anyone who states that obviously knows nothing about chemistry at 
> all.  Ionic is compounds, an particles are colloid.  The first is in 
> solution and the second makes up the colloid.  That ionic adds nothing 
> to the healing process is nonsense, silver sulfathiazole and sivler 
> nitrate have been mainstays for the medical profession for a century and 
> they are of course both ionic forms of silver.  Also Robert Becker 
> showed quite conclusively in his book "The Body Electric" that ionic 
> silver aids tremendously in healing, and of course the silver bandages 
> and other forms of healing that the medical community now use for things 
> like burns would not work either if ionic silver were useless.
> 
> Marshall
> 
> On 9/30/2010 11:24 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
> > Yes -- but Marshall -- what about his assertion that large particle and 
ionic
> > silver are the same thing?  And that ionic silver "adds nothing to the 
>healing
> > process"?
> > MA
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> >> From: Marshall Dudley [email protected]
> >>
> >>    I don't know where he is getting these ideas. That there is a
> >> fundamental difference between metallic and ionic silver is a mainstay
> >> of this group, and to say that no one here is willing to accept that
> >> fact is laughable.  He is ranting a lot, but not providing any
> >> information that I can see, more like shoot the messenger.
> >>
> >> Marshall
> >>
> >> On 9/30/2010 12:07 PM, MaryAnn Helland wrote:
> >>> The following is a request for information from the person questioning me 
>on
> >> the
> >>> use of our home-made CS, and the response from the guy at ABC.  Who is 
Don,
> >>> anyway -- anyone know?  I would appreciate responses from our CS-experts
> >> here,
> >>> so that I can respond back.  Thanks.
> >>> MA
> >>>> This is what I received on CS from the ABL contact....and it is not
> >> kind....so I
> >>>> am not posting it to the list. I prefer to not incite people which only
> >> drives
> >>>> them deeper into denial and cancels the opportunity for me to teach and 
>them
> >> to
> >>>> learn. But you can see that there is difficulty in understanding the
> > science
> >>>> with the general public.
> >>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>
> >>>> From: info<[email protected]>
> >>>>> Date: September 28, 2010 10:29:47 AM MDT
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Subject: Re: need some clarification here...for my clients
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Whew, that is a long thread. Right up front I see the common problem,
> >> though. I
> >>>>> was once a member of a yahoo list called silver pets. They were, just as
> >> this
> >>>>> one is, unable to grasp the difference between ionic home made silver, 
>and
> >> pure
> >>>>> elemental silver solutions. To attempt to explain, to people like this, 
>the
> >> very
> >>>>> fundamental differences in the two types of silver preparations is 
>greeted
> >> as
> >>>>> heresy. They are so locked into their erroneous beliefs that nothing 
>could
> >>>>> convince them differently. I finally wrote them off as Luddites, and 
>moved
> >> on.
> >>>>> Your group seems of much the same mindset. The fact that large amounts 
of
> >> silver
> >>>>> are being retained in their horses indicates large particle, ionic 
silver
> >>>>> ingestion. Ionic particles, because of their positive particle electron
> >> charge,
> >>>>> readily begin bonding with other organic substances, as soon as they 
>enter
> >> the
> >>>>> organism. This creates salts and compounds which are hard to excrete and
> >> add
> >>>>> nothing to the healing process, because they are no longer silver, but
> >> something
> >>>>> else. This is why they are
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The ABL products pass through the body unchanged, due to their negative
> >> electron
> >>>>> charge. They are excreted quickly. They do not get bound up in other
> >> chemical
> >>>>> relationships. They have absolutely no effect on the mineral balance of
> > the
> >>>>> organism, as they do not form compounds.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Fat chance that you will convince your "colleagues" of this. They are
> >> locked
> >>>>> into the theory that; "Why should I pay for something that I can make 
for
> >>>>> pennies?" "It all the same stuff."
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I could go through this thread, point by point, and present credible,
> >>>>> independent, peer reviewed science to support these facts, but why 
>bother?
> >> They
> >>>>> either will not, or cannot grasp the scientific principle involved.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You can always cut/paste excerpts from the studies listed on my Clinical
> >> Studies
> >>>>> page. I will be putting up several more studies this week, since ABL has
> >> taken
> >>>>> down their research page. I am glad I save some of those. I attached the
> >> Penn
> >>>>> State. peer reviewed and journal published study. It was the basis for 
>the
> >> 3rd
> >>>>> US Patent. This patent actually protects the elemental silver particle.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Good luck with this gang. I fear that you are tilting at windmills. Some
> >> people
> >>>>> will defend their ignorance to their graves. I lost three friends over 
>the
> >> past
> >>>>> 18 months. They all went into the hospital for serious conditions 
>(cancer,
> >> MS),
> >>>>> but they all died within days from sepsis of resistant infections that
> > they
> >>>>> contracted after entering the hospital, not their original complaint. 
>Two,
> >> that
> >>>>> I found out about early, were offered free silver. It was declined. They
> >> were
> >>>>> both in Tulsa and Lori could have had it in their hands within an hour.
> >>> Sigh...
> >>>>> I attached a couple of documents that you might find helpful.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Don
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 9/28/2010 4:59 PM, Biochemist wrote:
> >>>>> Hello Don,  Having a problem with a group of people on my list who are
> >> defending
> >>>>> the use of CS on horses for long term....following is a document of our
> >>>>> conversations...need some help here...from ABC..  Thanks,
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