Your ppm was high. Initially the high concentration caused
aggregation and the particles to grow larger, yielding the golden
color. When adding H2O2 the particles sizes decreased and you ended up
with too much silver oxide to dissolve, thus giving the dark color.
Marshall
On 10/21/2010 12:22 PM, jaxi wrote:
Neville - it was a rather dark yellow versus the very faint light
yellow I sometimes get, which didn't really bother me much, but when I
later added the H2O2 it turned a dark murky brownish black sort of
color and despite being left for several more days did not clear. It
was kind of cool looking and it may well have been fine to use for
something, but I have to admit I was in no way comfortable consuming
it, or spraying it on my body or my animals. Especially when I had
other batches which were clear. I am guessing there was still some
H2O2 residue in the jar during brewing and that impacted the final
product.
Jaxi
On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Neville Munn <one.red...@hotmail.com
<mailto:one.red...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
[I only had one batch turn out bad (dark yellow but still see
through...]
Bad??? Yellow is not bad! Where'd you get that idea? I know
we've learnt considerably more over the years and clear seems to
be the 'in colour' nowadays, but the occasional yellow batch is
perfectly OK. Yellow was once the BEST colour if you dig back a
few years. Whatever size those particles or particle
agglomerates are will still be bioavailable.
And if it's transparent {see thru} and stays that way for months
while in storage, that's the giveaway that there's nothing wrong
with it. If it's not transparent but cloudy or you got
'something?' settling in the bottom of your storage vessels over
time due to gravity...then that's when I'D be concerned, otherwise
there's nothing wrong with it.
Clear or yellow is fine.
N.
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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 22:51:27 -0500
Subject: Re: CS>Re: silver puppy
From: jaxi.sch...@gmail.com <mailto:jaxi.sch...@gmail.com>
To: silver-list@eskimo.com <mailto:silver-list@eskimo.com>
I did kit 2. I like the magnetic stirrer but I am not sure one is
truly better than the other. Someone on one of these lists uses
the light one and I think has a colored bulb in it. She enjoys
the effect and uses it as a night light, plus is totally pleased
with her EIS. I believe all of the puppies can be converted to
battery and Ode has the battery conversion pack available on the
site - it comes with AC wall connector. I just got the basic and
plug it into the wall. But then I don't travel much so having a
portable power source is not all that important for me.
On the auto setting (turns itself off when done) with the swap
(switches polarity every - 5-10 minutes can't recall exact cycle)
using room temp - which is in my basement and therefor perhaps a
bit cool - distilled water a quart takes 10-12 hours. Faster is
not necessarily better. Again the science geeks can explain all
that better than I can. If not on swap or if you prewarm the
water I believe it goes faster if faster is needed. I also know
some people "seed" their next batch with some from a previous
batch which also I think allows for faster production. Again ask
the science geeks how that all works. 10-12 hrs is fine for me
because I just set it up and leave for work or go to bed or
whatever and when it is done it is done. I can make 2 quarts a
day when in high need and that is plenty for my family. When I
first started providing it for the dogs they were going through a
quart a day but now seem to be where they need to be and only
consume a little each day so my supply lasts much longer. I make
up about 4 quarts at a time and then wait til I start to run low
and repeat.
I have been very happy. I only had one batch turn out bad (dark
yellow but still see through and when I later added H2O2 it turned
dark and murky as all get out and never cleared - I tossed it) but
I had cleaned my brewing jar with H2O2 and although I thought I
had thoroughly rinsed it I was clearly incorrect. The next batch
was totally normal. Live and learn.
So ... the auto puppy fits perfect on a normal mouth quart jar -
if you like wide mouth he has a nifty converter for it - has
simple flip switches on top to determine manual versus auto and
swap versus not swap (I cannot recall what the other setting is
called ... lol and it is downstairs). Stirrer is by personal
preference I think both work well just by different properties
(heat versus slow physical water displacement). So I think you
would be well served by either.
IMO, YMMV, etc etc etc
Jaxi
On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Melly Bag <tita_...@yahoo.com
<mailto:tita_...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
Jaxi,
I am trying to decide which machine to buy. I'm asking a few
questions to determine which type of machine to get.
Does your silver puppy have a magnetic stirrer or thermal stirrer?
Which do you think is better between the two?
Which type of machine do you have : kit No. 1 or No. 2?
Can your machine be converted from electric and battery?
How long does it take to finish brewing a quart?
Thanks.
Melly
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