What about silver compounds? Say you have silver oxide/chloride/hydroxide in the blood...can silver in this bound state also kill germs by the same mechanism as metallic silver?
~David On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Marshall <mdud...@king-cart.com> wrote: > Take a look at: > http://silver-lightning.com/**research.html<http://silver-lightning.com/research.html> > > Marshall > > > On 8/15/2011 3:08 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: > >> Thanks, I am going to read about this. The term "catalytic converter" >> comes up when I google oxidizing catalyst. I may ask more questions >> later. Interesting I know that ASAP claims their Ag4O4 has "catalytic >> capabilities". Maybe I will figure out what that means soon too. I'm >> writing an "In Vivo" section of a CS book, so I really want to get >> into the fine details. >> >> ~David >> >> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Marshall<mdud...@king-cart.com**> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes, it is an oxidizing catalyst and oxidizes the germ killing it. >>> Essentially the same mechanism as ozone or H2O2 therapy, but is not used >>> up >>> like they are. >>> >>> Marshall >>> >>> On 8/15/2011 1:19 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: >>> >>>> Everything I've read that gives a mechanism of action of silver >>>> killing germs has to do with an ion...oxidizing a cell >>>> wall...electromagnetically scrambling DNA...etc. Is there are known >>>> mechanism of action by which metallic silver particles kills germs? >>>> >>>> ~David >>>> >>>> On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:04 AM, Marshall<mdud...@king-cart.com**> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Sure metal particles can do something. Silver particles are an >>>>> excellent >>>>> catalyst, and also kill germs on contact. That is why some water >>>>> filters >>>>> have silver metal in them. What particles do NOT do is cause injured >>>>> cells >>>>> to revert to stem cells for healing, that is only done by ions. >>>>> >>>>> Sputtering, which is how I believe mesosilver is made, produces clumps >>>>> of >>>>> silver particles and some silver atoms/ions The atoms can easily be an >>>>> ion, >>>>> since they will be in the middle of a plasma, and once they enter the >>>>> water, >>>>> can associate with the OH in the water forming ionic silver. >>>>> >>>>> Marshall >>>>> >>>>> On 8/14/2011 5:05 PM, David AuBuchon wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It seems to me that mesosilver particles are metallic silver. Can >>>>>> metallic silver actually yield any silver ions? I can understand how >>>>>> silver hydroxide/oxide/chloride/**citrate/etc can have different >>>>>> tendencies to disassociate in the body, and yield a free silver ion >>>>>> for a time, but how can metallic particles possibly do anything? >>>>>> Could it be that mesosilver's effect is only due to the 20% ions? >>>>>> That would be a ripoff on top of a ripoff. And how do those ions get >>>>>> into the product anyway when there is no electrolysis involved? Or >>>>>> are mesosilver particles somehow coated in a silver compound like >>>>>> silver oxide that can have some tendency to release ions? >>>>>> >>>>>> Working on a CS book, and just want to really give a completely fair >>>>>> view of the in vivo story. >>>>>> >>>>>> ~David >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> The Silver List is a moderated forum for discussing Colloidal Silver. >>>>>> Rules and Instructions: http://www.silverlist.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Unsubscribe: >>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:silver-list-request@**eskimo.com<silver-list-requ...@eskimo.com> >>>>>> ?subject=**unsubscribe> >>>>>> Archives: >>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/**silver-list@eskimo.com/** >>>>>> maillist.html<http://www.mail-archive.com/silver-list@eskimo.com/maillist.html> >>>>>> >>>>>> Off-Topic >>>>>> discussions:<mailto:silver-**off-topic-l...@eskimo.com<silver-off-topic-l...@eskimo.com> >>>>>> > >>>>>> List Owner: Mike Devour<mailto:mdevour@eskimo.**com<mdev...@eskimo.com> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >
