Okay Ole Bob and Doug, I've read the posts about meters with one eye slightly open, pretending I won't ever have to pay real attention to them -- but I am now at the point where I realize that the only way to know that I am producing consistent cs is to be able to test my water and know how pure it is.
Beyond that I do not understand - but it's time to get a meter. So, Doug, can you explain more about meters? I ws going to get the Hanna TDS but mybe that's silly if it is limited to only solids in the water. What would be incredibly helpful would be a breif non-technical description of meters and what they do and why you need them. Like what are the bells and whistles on Ole Bobs? Thank you so much, Katarina > > Mike D and Silver listers > > It had to happen! Go to: > > http://www.libertymall.com/start.htm -- > > HOW TO REACH THEM BY EMAIL: http://www.libertymall.com/Misc/comments.htm > http://www.howtobehealthy.com/ > > They appear to sell a "TDS-1 Knock-off" at 40 bucks and claim it tests > silver ppm. IT DOESN'T !! > > There is a main manufacturer in Portugal. You can > just order some and have them print any name/SPEC. you > please and call/claim -- what you like. That's free enterprise if one > has no ethics. > > This type of scam will "DEVALUE CS" this "gift from nature to humanity". > > Hanna charges 15 bucks and they have never called it more than a water > tester for testing salt in water -- i.e. salt in solution. Hanna also have > a silver tester -- "Now don't get excited" -- it tests for dissolved silver > waste from the photographic industry etc., again not suitable for > measuring silver colloids. > > WE ALL NOW KNOW THAT THE TDS-1 OR THIS GADGET CANNOT MEASURE PPM IN > COLLOIDAL SILVER -- NOW DON'T WE?? No PPM dunking gadget exists -- that > actually works directly on a silver colloid -- with any real accuracy!! > > Sorry to harp on this again Mike D!! I did take in your last comments on > the more sophisticated testers -- from Hanna, again it's a water purity > tester (in Microsiemens), agree? and I WILL AGREE THAT FOR > STANDARDIZATION THEY could/will BE HELPFUL for more accurate testing of the > start-up D.Water and the final flattened power graph curve and all in > Microsiemens > > GOOD PEOPLE -- You will only appreciate this when you have observed a > dozen or so > polarity switching brews (4 to 5 hours) with your trusty MMeter and record > every 15 minutes the current variations and and steady climb and final > peak and then the flattening off, indicating the brew is finished, > for all practical purposes. THIS HAS BEEN WRITTEN BEFORE. I'm just reinforcing > this concept. > > Next: General throw-away comment without meaning to grandstand, so be gentle!! > > CS brewing standardisation is a must -- it will happen better with education!. > Just like we all have accepted responsilbity for our own and family's > health, we must also all become a little knowledgable about the > technical aspects of the brewing process -- you don't have to be a rocket > scientist or brain surgeon or even a computer programmer superman or woman!! > But of course if your are -- then that's your good fortune etc etc. > > And if you don't want to advance any further than the silver electrodes > on 4 x 9 volt batteries, then that's good and perfectly adequate too. > In the loger term -- this is a more expensive solution. And with CS you > will be in for the longer term -- Mine is a life sentence!! > > OLE BOB'S -- 20 DOLLAR digital MULTI-METER WITH AN EXTRA SET OF PROBES > and paddles FOR SAY ANOTHER 20 DOLLARS (including the soldering iron > IS A BETTER SOLUTION. > > You simply get more for your money!! You then have something of real > usefulness -- it measures all those little electronic bits like > resistance and voltage and current -- all indicators of what's happening > in your brew -- > > Thanks for the education Ole Bob! I really don't know yet what all the zeros > mean, but I'll get there in a half arsed sort of way. There are some > fine people on this list -- and they -- all in their own kind ways add > to our individual knowledge and education !! A GREAT BUNCH!! > > You can tell I just love my Multi-meter!! And yes, I do own a TDS-1 > still!! But I repented my sinful ways -- a harmless mistake. We > all have to start somewhere. And again "many thanks to Mike D" for > making it all possible for most of us!! Looking forward to the > "alternate list". IF ONE ONLY HAS THE TIME!! > > Mike D -- Thanks for taking the time to comment directly recently -- > you were also close to the mark on my exclamation "AgHHHHH". I couldn't > think of the symbol for gold at the time!! although it doest't quite > have the same visual affect. And you know what they say -- "don't let > the facts get in the way of a good story line". > Now -- I have shot myself in the foot!! > > Anyway, listers don't be fooled and don't pay your 40 bucks -- tell > everyone, and don't forget to contact <http://www.libertymall.com/start.htm> > and advise/tell/shout/spam them -- how misleading and useless and how > overpriced/rip off/rip off/ rip off -- the gadget is. Their claims are > not accurate and I believe technically FALSE. But hey, who's going to > sue them? Buyer beware ------ !! > > In Silvation and Silavating and rabbiting-on profusely -- > > rabidly yours -- Douglas Haack -- AgHHH! > > PS: shout, scream and tell everyone!! Repost this on to all!! -- The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: [email protected] -or- [email protected] with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. To post, address your message to: [email protected] List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]>

