Okay Ole Bob and Doug,

I've read the posts about meters with one eye slightly open, pretending I
won't ever have to pay real attention to them -- but I am now at the point
where I realize that the only way to know that I am producing consistent cs
is to be able to test my water and know how pure it is.

Beyond that I do not understand - but it's time to get a meter.

So, Doug, can you explain more about meters? I ws going to get the Hanna TDS
but mybe that's silly if it is limited to only solids in the water.
What would be incredibly helpful would be a breif non-technical description
of meters and what they do and why you need them.
Like what are the bells and whistles on Ole Bobs?

Thank you so much,

Katarina
>
> Mike D and Silver listers
>
> It had to happen! Go to:
>
> http://www.libertymall.com/start.htm --
>
> HOW TO REACH THEM BY EMAIL: http://www.libertymall.com/Misc/comments.htm
> http://www.howtobehealthy.com/
>
> They appear to sell a "TDS-1 Knock-off" at 40 bucks and claim it tests
> silver ppm. IT DOESN'T !!
>
> There is a main manufacturer in Portugal. You can
> just order some and have them print any name/SPEC. you
> please and call/claim -- what you like. That's free enterprise if one
> has no ethics.
>
> This type of scam will "DEVALUE CS" this "gift from nature to humanity".
>
> Hanna charges 15 bucks and they have never called it more than a water
> tester for testing salt in water -- i.e. salt in solution. Hanna also have
> a silver tester -- "Now don't get excited" -- it tests for dissolved silver
> waste from the photographic industry etc., again not suitable for
> measuring silver colloids.
>
> WE ALL NOW KNOW THAT THE TDS-1 OR THIS GADGET CANNOT MEASURE PPM IN
> COLLOIDAL SILVER -- NOW DON'T WE?? No PPM dunking gadget exists -- that
> actually works directly on a silver colloid -- with any real accuracy!!
>
> Sorry to harp on this again Mike D!! I did take in your last comments on
> the more sophisticated testers -- from Hanna, again it's a water purity
> tester (in Microsiemens), agree? and I WILL AGREE THAT FOR
> STANDARDIZATION THEY could/will BE HELPFUL for more accurate testing of the
> start-up D.Water and the final flattened power graph curve and all in
> Microsiemens
>
> GOOD PEOPLE -- You will only appreciate this when you have observed a
> dozen or so
> polarity switching brews (4 to 5 hours) with your trusty MMeter and record
> every 15 minutes the current variations and and steady climb and final
> peak and then the flattening off, indicating the brew is finished,
> for all practical purposes. THIS HAS BEEN WRITTEN BEFORE. I'm just reinforcing
> this concept.
>
> Next: General throw-away comment without meaning to grandstand, so be gentle!!
>
> CS brewing standardisation is a must -- it will happen better with education!.
> Just like we all have accepted responsilbity for our own and family's
> health, we must also all become a little knowledgable about the
> technical aspects of the brewing process -- you don't have to be a rocket
> scientist or brain surgeon or even a computer programmer superman or woman!!
> But of course if your are -- then that's your good fortune etc etc.
>
> And if you don't want to advance any further than the silver electrodes
> on 4 x 9 volt batteries, then that's good and perfectly adequate too.
> In the loger term -- this is a more expensive solution. And with CS you
> will be in for the longer term -- Mine is a life sentence!!
>
> OLE BOB'S -- 20 DOLLAR digital MULTI-METER WITH AN EXTRA SET OF PROBES
> and paddles FOR SAY ANOTHER 20 DOLLARS (including the soldering iron
> IS A BETTER SOLUTION.
>
> You simply get more for your money!! You then have something of real
> usefulness -- it measures all those little electronic bits like
> resistance and voltage and current -- all indicators of what's happening
> in your brew --
>
> Thanks for the education Ole Bob! I really don't know yet what all the zeros
> mean, but I'll get there in a half arsed sort of way.  There are some
> fine people on this list -- and they -- all in their own kind ways add
> to our individual knowledge and education !! A GREAT BUNCH!!
>
> You can tell I just love my Multi-meter!! And yes, I do own a TDS-1
> still!! But I repented my sinful ways -- a harmless mistake. We
> all have to start somewhere. And again "many thanks to Mike D" for
> making it all possible for most of us!! Looking forward to the
> "alternate list". IF ONE ONLY HAS THE TIME!!
>
> Mike D -- Thanks for taking the time to comment directly recently --
> you were also close to the mark on my exclamation "AgHHHHH". I couldn't
> think of the symbol for gold at the time!! although it doest't quite
> have the same visual affect. And you know what they say -- "don't let
> the facts get in the way of a good story line".
> Now -- I have shot myself in the foot!!
>
> Anyway, listers don't be fooled and don't pay your 40 bucks -- tell
> everyone, and don't forget to contact <http://www.libertymall.com/start.htm>
> and advise/tell/shout/spam them -- how misleading and useless and how
> overpriced/rip off/rip off/ rip off -- the gadget is. Their claims are
> not accurate and I believe technically FALSE. But hey, who's going to
> sue them? Buyer beware ------ !!
>
> In Silvation and Silavating and rabbiting-on profusely --
>
> rabidly yours -- Douglas Haack -- AgHHH!
>
> PS: shout, scream and tell everyone!! Repost this on to all!!


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