Greetings,
I actually coined the term EIS after extensive study of Dr. George
Maass, and conversions with Stephen Quinto (founder of Natural
Immunogenics). I also wanted to find a term that applied to laser
produced nano silver. This was done in 2000-2001.
One of the reasons some of the "classic" researchers left this list is
demonstrated point and case in conversations like this. No matter how
much people like Ivan tried to share their knowledge, ignorance with a
loud voice always came in to cause chaos.
A whole slew of brilliant people left when Frances Key fooled people
into believing that silver particles were more effective than silver
ions, and that silver ions had little value. Frances did it for
commercial reasons only, and his mentor did not agree. Once Frances
succeeded, he simply left the list, as his motivation was commercial
from the onset, and not to be a part of a community actually exploring
the potentials of both ionic silver and particulate silver.
I rarely post here, and often shake my head at some of the assumptions
made. There are lists that are far more civil and more open to actual
experience and research. I only stick around in case there are still
those out there that are interested in what really happened, where these
terms came from, and how CS production evolved, and, of course, where it
stands today.
Here is the actual meaning of the term:
http://www.silvermedicine.org/about-silver.html
It doesn't matter how the silver formulation is produced. It can be
done chemically, like Silver Colloids, with lasers, or with LVDC or
HVAC, although most HVDC silver has too much nitrogen to qualify, unless
it is made the way Ivan made it.
In particular the term distinguished itself from silver citrates, strong
silver protein, and mild silver protein.
The term was also designed to separate EIS products from home brews that
use either baking soda as a catalyst or salt as a catalyst.
Splitting hairs about what qualifies as a colloidal suspension is
academician snobbery. If there is particulate silver in suspension with
a zeta potential, a colloid exists, regardless of the ionic silver
content present as well, or how low the percentage of particulate PPM.
I had a great phone conversation last year with Peter Lindemann. Most
of the early brilliant researchers used, and still use, the low voltage
method of production, so I don't know where you get your information
about the "classics" not using LVDC. Peter experimented with (and still
does, apparently) incredibly low voltage brews that take extended
periods of time to finish.
The man who broke the mold was Ole' Bob. His experimentation with high
voltage colloidal silver, and his charts and plots and reams of data was
very interesting. He didn't know he was creating nano shards of silver
along with silver nitrate. The silver particles looked like fused
fractals. Last I heard, Ole Bob was going to adopt Ivan's system of
sealing the production system and flushing the air out with Argon gas,
but I don't know if he ever got around to doing so.
Luckily, we still have Trem and Ole Coyote units being sold and used
extensively, as they can make great silver safely, effectively, and with
very little "know how".
Although I've built many generators myself, I still use a modified
Silvergen SG7.
Kind Regards,
Jason
On 2/23/2014 4:28 AM, [email protected] wrote:
The term electrically isolated (isolated from what?) silver (EIS) is
vague and ambiguous and really doesn't have a scientific meaning.
It could however have a meaning of one that uses too high of a current
rectifier value and creates particulate size to heavy to stay in
suspension of a fluid with respect to it's surface tension, falls to the
bottom of the vessel, thus "isolated".
The term EIS apparently was coined by companies to make home-brewers
think that their product was inferior to theirs, and fool them into
buying it.
I hate to disappoint you, but if you make nanosize silver particles that
stay in suspension in a fluid such as distilled water, notwithstanding
any ionic content, by all definitions, it is a "Colloidal substance of
Silver".
To say otherwise would fly in the face of a published article of a
highly respected research journal, from a 100 years ago.
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*Scientific American, Volume 78,Page 2 & 3-1914*
*Scientific American Supplement No. 2009- *July 4, 1914
*On Metallic Colloids and Their Bactericidal Properties*
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