I agree forums are generally easier to use and more foolproof for posting
(fairly certain some of my replies to this list never made it). Even on
satellite in northern Canada, bandwidth is far from an issue (forums don't
take much, unless loaded with pictures)--but that may not be the case in
some other areas of the world.

That all said, I understand the concerns with moving to a forum as well. If
email always worked (replies/posts not lost), it works quite well for me, at
least the way I use it. All new emails from the silver-list are
automatically moved into my CS folder and I look at it:

1 - Occasionally just to see what's new and if there are any questions I
might be able to help with.

2 - When I have a question; I first search this folder on my laptop to see
if the answer is already there--have amassed quite a CS reference over the
time I've been subscribed (thanks all!). Though I haven't read most of it, I
can easily pull up posts on a topic any time by searching this folder in my
email.

3 - When I've posted a question and am hoping for responses.

Conversations/threads can be awkward to follow compared to a forum, but
using search to find stuff works okay. Hope something there is helpful to
someone.

In short, I'm happy either way, and prefer whichever way keeps the most
members happily reading/asking/answering with the least interference/trolls.
You've created a great community here, Mike. Thanks!

Best regards,
Walter


-----Original Message-----
From: M.G. Devour [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Fri, Feb. 13, 2015 18:11
To: [email protected]
Subject: CS>A forum?

David wrote:
> I wouldn't touch Yahoo or Google forums with a bargepole. You would 
> always be at their mercy.

Well, I'm glad to see I'm not totally alone in that opinion! <grin>

> Personally I think the email option is completely overrated - possibly 
> by members who are not familiar with the ease and speed of looking at 
> a proper web based threaded forum.

Let's explore that a little. Do any of you have bandwidth limitations that
make visiting a web page burdensome? (We do have members worldwide, and I
remember there being times when folks were on fairly primitive connections,
while others were still on dial-up.)

>  It may be handy to receive a digest but if its too confusing to  
> navigate or follow a thread then whats the point? I get the digest  
> daily but these days I rarely look at it. Its too messy.

The digest created by this list software is not supported well by many of
the popular e-mail systems, so it doesn't even work for many folks.
Unfortunately, it's one of those places where standards have been widely
ignored. 

> Complaints about having to log in or use passwords are also a bit lame.
>  You can save the password so it only has to be done once.

This is true on any system you have control over. If you use public machines
or otherwise share your computer with anybody you don't completely trust,
there can be issues.

> I'm a member of many forums.  The first 4 that I looked at today all 
> use various versions of vBulletin.
> 
> http://www.vbulletin.com

That's the leader in this product niche. The only downside is that it is
commercial software, leaving you at the mercy of whatever the company
decides to do, apart from the cost of a license. (Which I paid for a few
years back, so isn't a big issue at this time.)

> I've always found them to be very easy to use, with ample features 
> including the ability to POST PICS. (How handy would that be! You can 
> also run ads which would help cover the cost.

RaVen rightly points out the annoyance and intrusiveness of ads...
however...

> They can be as simple or as complicated as you want to make them.

Right. It's fairly common for forums to only display ads to visitors who are
not logged in. Members are spared once they log in. Plus it would be up to
me how aggressive to be with adverts... and you can presume I'd keep a
pretty tight lid on them.

Apart from all of that, running a forum is a bigger job than the benign
relative neglect that we manage to survive with here. It would be much more
visible, leading to more new people, higher traffic levels, and more
vulnerability to SPAM and other attacks. I'd need to train up at least a
couple of volunteers to help run the joint... 

And I don't really know how the group would survive the transition. It would
be a different place. Probably better, but ultimately changed.

Further thoughts, anyone? No rush on my part, but I'm more than willing to
consider different ideas.

Be well,

Mike D.










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