That's very interesting Sandee, and I would reiterate that water fasting is a 
VERY bad idea.  With any illness or virus attack it is really important to keep 
water intake up as this is the body's lifeline.  I know with my husband whom I 
lost last year, that dehydration caused kidney failure which then so weakened 
him that he lost the fight against numerous assaults even though they said he 
had beaten the cancer....dee 

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> On 21 Feb 2015, at 19:30, Sandra George <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Further to mine of today’s date on the same subject and to Victor himself - I 
> will expand on my experience which is, that as of the first week of August 
> last year, the original onslaught of this virus was not STOPPED by Colloidal 
> Silver - when I started to feel that I was getting something I increased my 
> daily intake of CS up to 28 oz over a day - this may have helped to have 
> reduced the impact however I repeat did not STOP the attack !!!!!      
> Admittedly I was very stupid in so far as, after having this feeling of 
> malaise for ten days, I went on a water fast for ten days to detox my body, 
> while still taking this increased amount of CS per day, this is when the 
> virus said - thank you very much for this act so as to allow me to attack 
> with a vengeance - which it did - I have already posted my experience, so 
> will not bore those of you who many have read my missive the first time, with 
> a replay - after about three weeks, I developed all the symptoms of this 
> virus namely, intense pain, aches, rash and swollen joints - I learned what 
> the virus was, and went into action throwing the entire kitchen sink of 
> possible things to send it packing and on it’s way, nothing worked, I even 
> went as far as to use MMS something I will never do again.     This is when I 
> was doing all the research on this subject - thanks Marshall for posting the 
> piece on the latest research on virus generally, 
> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-viruses-alive-2004/ which I 
> read at the time of my quest, thanks Ode for agreeing, that, how can one kill 
> something if it is not alive - both of you know far more about this subject 
> than I do so I appreciate the back up.   I have a cousin who has just got 
> their doctorate on virus and is off to visit with the Ebola up close and 
> personal with whom I had a long talk while I was in London in December of 
> last year - I related to her my experience and what I had gleaned from my 
> research and like both of yourselves she was not going to commit to anything 
> for sure - this is one of the downsides of research - at which point is the 
> truth or reality reached?
> Having done, what I did on myself, by throwing everything at this virus for 
> four months by the second week of january of this year I started to feel like 
> my old self again - while in England in December I caught the flu and ended 
> up in bed for five days thanks to a weakened immune system, so even with the 
> high CS intake it was not able to save me this additional experience !!!!     
> So as I write this I cannot say that anything or all of what I did, has 
> killed the virus because I cannot be bothered to go and take a blood test to 
> see if the virus is still in my body - however I will say that as far as I am 
> concerned, when I compare Further to mine of today’s date on the same subject 
> and to Victor himself - I will expand on my experience which is, that as of 
> the first week of August last year, the original onslaught of this virus was 
> not STOPPED by Colloidal Silver - when I started to feel that I was getting 
> something I increased my daily intake of CS up to 28 oz over a day - this may 
> have helped to have reduced the impact however I repeat did not STOP the 
> attack !!!!!      Admittedly I was very stupid in so far as, after having 
> this feeling of malaise for ten days, I went on a water fast for ten days to 
> detox my body, while still taking this increased amount of CS per day, this 
> is when the virus said - thank you very much for this act so as to allow me 
> to attack with a vengeance - which it did - I have already posted my 
> experience, so will not bore those of you who many have read my missive the 
> first time, with a replay - after about three weeks, I developed all the 
> symptoms of this virus namely, intense pain, aches, rash and swollen joints - 
> I learned what the virus was, and went into action throwing the entire 
> kitchen sink of possible things to send it packing and on it’s way, nothing 
> worked, I even went as far as to use MMS something I will never do again.     
> This is when I was doing all the research on this subject - thanks Marshall 
> for posting the piece on the latest research on virus generally, 
> http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/are-viruses-alive-2004/ which I 
> read at the time of my quest, thanks Ode for agreeing, that, how can one kill 
> something if it is not alive - both of you know far more about this subject 
> than I do so I appreciate the back up.   I have a cousin who has just got 
> their doctorate on virus and is off to visit with the Ebola up close and 
> personal with whom I had a long talk while I was in London in December of 
> last year - I related to her my experience and what I had gleaned from my 
> research and like both of yourselves she was not going to commit to anything 
> for sure - this is one of the downsides of research - at which point is the 
> truth or reality reached?
> Having done, what I did on myself, by throwing everything at this virus for 
> four months by the second week of january of this year I started to feel like 
> my old self again - while in England in December I caught the flu and ended 
> up in bed for five days thanks to a weakened immune system, so even with the 
> high CS intake it was not able to save me this additional experience !!!!     
> So as I write this I cannot say that anything or all of what I did, has 
> killed the virus because I cannot be bothered to go and take a blood test to 
> see if the virus is still in my body - however I will say that as far as I am 
> concerned, when I compare my experience to others, I am nearly, if not 100%, 
> OK with no repeats, or relapses which apparently can happen over a four year 
> span of time, whereas others are still suffering, and have had relapses.    
> So the question remaining is ?    draw your own conclusions !!!!
> Cheers to all, keep far away from virus, and boost your immune systems to the 
> max in the hope that this will deter a virus onslaught !!!!!
> Sandee🐬
> Attitude is everything !!!
> Sandra George
> Colloidal Silver Products
> Eye Drops & Topical Gel
> [email protected]
> 
> 
> 
> On 21 Feb 2015, at 09:55, Sandra George <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Victor thanks for yours with your definition of a virus I beg to differ as a 
> result of my own experience with the chickenguynia virus I had last year and 
> as a result did extensive research and literally threw the kitchen sink at it 
> - colloidal silver alone cannot kill a virus because it cannot penetrate the 
> protective coating most virus use as their defense mechanism added to which 
> latest research says that a virus is not considered to be alive it does not 
> grow it simply replicates itself from cell to cell so we have our different 
> understanding and conclusions on this subject - I do not wish to smash the 
> illusions of those like yourself however I find for myself that personal 
> experience is the best teacher in everything so I repeat that from my 
> experience with this particular virus colloidal silver could not and did not 
> have the result you uphold - 
> Take good 
> Sandee🐬
> Attitude is Everything
> Colloidal Silver Products
> Eye Drops & Topical Gel
> 
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2015, at 8:06 PM, Victor Cozzetto <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sandee,
>> 
>> A virus is most certainly considered a pathogen, and you can confirm this in 
>> any literature or google search. Furthermore, CS DOES stop viruses, which is 
>> quite obvious to all of us on this list that are no longer bed ridden from 
>> flus, colds, etc. It is also documented by Becker and several university 
>> studies. CS stopped all known pathogens. No virus or other pathogen has been 
>> found that will survive in the presence of silver. The trick is getting the 
>> silver to the target.
>> 
>> CS works by many different mechanisms, and is effective against both aerobic 
>> and anaerobic pathogens, as well as tumor cells in some cases. These 
>> mechanisms are not fully agreed upon or understood, but CS works nonetheless.
>> 
>> Victor
>> 
>> On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 6:34 AM, Sandra George <[email protected]> wrote:
>> If as the literature reads, CRE is a pathogen, then colloidal silver will 
>> kill it by cutting off it’s oxygen supply !!!!
>> A pathogen is NOT a virus
>> Sandee🐬
>> Attitude is everything !!!
>> Sandra George
>> Colloidal Silver Products
>> Eye Drops & Topical Gel
>> [email protected]
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 20 Feb 2015, at 14:46, Deborah Gerard <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Judy...Steve has posted on the subject.
>> http://server.publishers-mgmt.com/semk/secm/2015/02/csu/643/more/
>> 
>> 
>> On Friday, February 20, 2015 1:23 PM, Judy Knowlton 
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> A friend must have throat-larynx surgery very soon for a tumor (operated 
>> upon 5 years ago) the tumor has
>> grown back. He is more concerned about the new Superbug that is killing 50% 
>> of those who get it, since the tests will be taken with tools that are 
>> likely to have CRE (His immune system is low as well.) He is a professional 
>> story teller, and losing his voice seems like  losing his life.
>> Any information from you folks on facing CRE and surgery?
>> Judy Down Maine
>> 
>> 
>> 
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