Hi Itguy:
I agree that remaining on a private list server is the best option; here
at Eskimo or elsewhere. I wish Mike would turn over control, that would
make everything simple.
I run several facebook groups, and as a forum, it is really terrible.
It's very difficult to save/find threads. It's really set up as a
social platform, not an informational platform.
I don't like any of the "groups" websites out there for list servers,
especially since it is so easy to set up a secure and private list
server on an independent domain. Their privacy policy is only valid up
to the next buyout. Most of these companies exist solely with an exit
strategy in mind.
Mailman is open source and free to use, and is almost identical to
Eskimo's system. It's very efficient and relatively easy to customize
and set up.
~Jason
On 6/5/2017 3:02 PM, Itguy wrote:
I agree - it's really not going to work with Mike not coming back. One
thing I disagreed with Mike about in the past was his publishing of
the list contents in an open archive. I do not feel that is conducive
for privacy, security and anonymity for anyone. In this day and age we
really need to be aware of such things. Especially with a topic where
people have been suppressed/harassed/stalked about such as alternative
remedies and such..
Speaking as a Senior IT Security Engineer -
I'd be inclined to agree with Facebook with a major caveat... There
could be some concerns with privacy and security on Facebook as it's
widely known facebook aggregates telemetry with other sources
including CIA funded WPP and others. Facebook will offer absolutely no
privacy/security and anonymity for anyone.. So if you go there,
remember that you'll likely lose people and folks will be less
inclined to share their thoughts in an open fashion.
Yahoo is definately out of the question as Yahoo themselves built a
backdoor into their systems for the US Intel cartels and has a
history of 'repeated' hacks. Yahoo should never be considered for
anything, even email.
Groups.io one is probably the best option for now. But I am convinced
Mike isn't ready to give up control even if he isn't interested in
moderating or even reading the list.
The most simple solution would be for someone to take over this list..
I will assist financially to 'pay the bills' if someone can convince
Mike to turn over the reigns.. I think he would trust myself or
Marshall to take over ownership because he knows both of us
personally. If I took it over I would allocate moderators to assist
and advise me and just pay the bills.
On Mon, Jun 5, 2017, at 02:44 PM, Steve G wrote:
In that case, since he isn't cooperating, this group should just
migrate to a new platform as best we can. Yahoo groups are still out
there and seem to still thrive. Facebook is another possibility, but
that forces everyone to have a Facebook account.
The status quo of having a group that the owner is neglecting just
doesn't work.
Steve
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**From:** Jason <[email protected]>
**To:** [email protected]
**Sent:** Monday, June 5, 2017 2:31 PM
**Subject:** CS>re: Mike is Well
...Mike should turn over the account to someone willing to manage it.
...or, the list should be transferred to another host before it shuts
off one day.
I don't mind running a list, there are some good free list server
software packages that can be run from any domain.
~Jason
On 6/5/2017 5:43 AM, Itguy wrote:
> Unfortunately I cannot offer any further assistance.
>
> Mike doesn't have any willingness to manage the list any longer. After
> I explained to him the concerns from list members and the need for him
> to admin the list he said for now he will keep paying the bills but
> can't many any further promises. I told him I would advise that he
> simply delete his entire inbox at his email address and start anew.
> He's too far behind to even attempt to parse through what may amount
> to multiple thousands of emails after many years of neglect. Then once
> deleted he can 'keep up' by checking his list and inbox a couple of
> times a week...
>
> It's been nearly 2 weeks since I made my wellness trip to his home and
> he hasn't checked his email to cleaned out the box, it's still filled
> up. I don't think he took my advice. Mike uses Gmail now but didn't
> provide me with that address so I have no way to reach him other than
> his cell phone number. (should he answer) To be honest, I suspect Mike
> isn't even involved with CS any longer.
>
> All I can say at this point is there isn't anything you can do about
> this list other than to let it deprecate and possibly manually move
> people to a new list. Sorry I cannot be of further help.
>
> --
> Itguy
> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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