Cyndiann,  those arent scientific papers.  You claim science but never off any.

Going down in droves?   Please cite the mortality as a percentage of population, or excess death, or years lost or some relevant metric.  For example, several countries didnt have any excess death, like Sweden.    The U.S. saw about 15% excess death...levels not seen since 2008.  However,  half those deaths were in care homes and the average age was about the same as maximum life span.  99% of deaths were associated with co morbidities.   Sick people inevitably become ill with acute disease on their way to death, whether its covid or flu, heart disease, cancer etc.  A large part of those dying went to the hospital for something else, caught covid in the hospital, or were diagnosed with the scandalous PCR test and ended up dying from multiple causes.   Sars cov 2 is not deadly until you couple it with old and sick hospitalized people.

If you hold the people who dont want the jab in contempt, why do you care so much that they get one?  I doubt your concern is for their health any more than you have concern for sky divers, surfers, race car drivers, or for that matter commuters to work, which John Ioannidis showed have about the same risk of death as covid infected


Max

On 8/31/2021 7:12 AM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:
First of all, having an opinion different than yours doesn't make me a troll. I'm the one using real science here, you are the troll. If I could not read why am I answering back? Stop being stupid and Mother  Nature is the one using selective advantage by killing mostly people like you that won't get the vaccine. You are going down in droves.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-freedom-defender-caleb-wallace-dies-covid-20210829-4m7co2w6p5dkje3gh77zx6252a-story.html <https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-freedom-defender-caleb-wallace-dies-covid-20210829-4m7co2w6p5dkje3gh77zx6252a-story.html> https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/05/texas-gop-leader-antimask-antivax-dies-covid/ <https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/05/texas-gop-leader-antimask-antivax-dies-covid/> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57958358 <https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-57958358> https://www.businessinsider.com/people-who-died-from-coronavirus-after-not-taking-it-seriously-2020-7 <https://www.businessinsider.com/people-who-died-from-coronavirus-after-not-taking-it-seriously-2020-7>

On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 6:40 PM Ed <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    The problem with the troll and the person wanting other to move to
    the new group is she/he can't read or understand common sense.  I
    once had a dog like this, and had to put the bitch to sleep, maybe
    mother nature will have input into this problem.  Blessings

    On 8/29/2021 3:15 PM, Cyndiann Phillips wrote:

    The risk of rare blood clotting is significantly higher as a
    result of catching Covid-19, than it is from being vaccinated
    against the virus, a new study has found.

    In a peer-reviewed study published in the British Medical Journal
    on Friday, researchers from Oxford University, the London School
    of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine and several other British
    universities and hospitals analyzed data from more than 29
    million people who had received their first dose of either the
    Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine or the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. The
    study’s authors were fully independent from the
    Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine developers.

    
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/27/covid-not-vaccinations-presents-biggest-blood-clot-risk-study.html
    
<https://www.cnbc.com/2021/08/27/covid-not-vaccinations-presents-biggest-blood-clot-risk-study.html>


    Science is a wonderful thing!


    On Sat, Aug 28, 2021 at 3:39 PM pal joey <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Not saying I know this is happening, but there is some talk
        of some people get a saline shot instead of the real vaccine.
        And the motive is a guess, but theories include creating a
        segment of the group that won't have problems, or become
        magnetized because they got saline. They would then be pro
        "vaccine", (look, nothing happened to me). Yes, it is far out
        speculation,  I agree, but this entire event is like
        something out of a sci fi horror movie, so anything is
        possible.  If I got the "vaccine", I would look into the d-
        dimer blood test for blood clots,  and then look into non
        toxic treatments to alleviate them as well as any possible
        antidotes, until this is all sorted out. If the blood tests
        showed all clear, I'd still plan to get more later, and
        continue to look at antidotes. Then, if all was still clear,
        I'd consider whether I got the saline.

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