At 17:14 4/7/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Stephen Quinto wrote:
>
>> I think it was Marshall who pointed out that AC reverses polarity at the
>> rate of 60 cycles per second, at least here in the States. And that
>> consequently there is no anode and cathode since each electrode alternates
>> in that role.
>> The implication being that the colloidal particles that might otherwise (in
>> a DC process for example) possess the charge that gives them the catalytic
>> quality of a true colloid as opposed to the flatter or neutral qualities of
>> elemental silver may be lacking.
>> Stephen
>
>I do not believe this analysis is correct.
>
>I believe the situation must be analysed as a dynamic situation, as
opposed to
>a static, or near static situation as can the LVDC method.
>
>Two things happen differently with HVAC. First, since the polarity is
>continually alternating, both oxygen and hydrogen are generated at each
>electrode. Since both of these elements are much more active chemically than
>silver, they react with each other, instead of reacting with the silver.
This
>is why HVAC can produce clear CS with no tarnishing of the electrodes and no
>production of sludge or other compounds of silver.
>
>The second important thing that happens is that we put a strong electric
charge
>on the silver ion as it leaves the anode. The strong field of several
thousand
>volts per inch causes the ion to quickly leave the area next to the electrode
>where the silver ion density is so high as to cause rapid aggregation into
>unduly large particles. However some aggregation does take place.
>
>So we end up with positively charged particles that leave the anode as
ions but
>quickly become particles of some number of atoms each. This is true also of
>the LVDC method, although the rate at which the ions move away from the anode
>is about 1,000 times faster for the HVAC method due to the higher voltage.
In
>the HVAC method at some point the polarity switches and the particles are
>attracted back toward the electrode. However there are 3 effects that
prevent
>the vast majority of particles from reaching the electrode, which now is the
>cathode.
>
>1. Particle size. Ions can travel faster than the larger colloidal
>particles. Since they left the electrode as ions, then aggregated somewhat a
>distance from the electrode, the rate at which they moved away from the
>electrode is faster than the rate at which they return.
>
>2. Charge. Each particle has a positive charge on it. Thus each particle
>reacts to a sum of the electric field provided by the voltage on the
electrodes
>PLUS an additional force of dispersion from an area of higher
concentration to
>that of a lower concentration. This also results in a higher velocity of the
>particles away from the electrode, than toward it.
>
>3. Convection. HVAC put significant amounts of energy in the water near the
>electrodes. This results in heating of this area, and strong convection
>currents which carry the particles away from the electrode toward cooler
areas.
>
>The result is that a colloid can be produced that has no sludge, and has
highly
>charged particles.
>
>Bless you,
>
>Marshall
That is exactly what I get. A clear CS, very little tarnishing of the plate
that is in the water, no sludge, a ph of between 4.6 and 4.9, and a very
light tyndall effect with no or very few sparklies. This is a very stable
product and I store it in plastic 1 gallon DW jugs. I have some that is
over 8 months old and has had no apparant change.
Bill
Sincerely,
Bill
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