Ha ha! You would be the exception to the rule, Steve.

It is the potential which determines whether silver will be
disassociated from the electrodes or not. The rate of disassociation is
reflected by the current flow. The voltage at which a current begins to
flow reflects the over-voltage required by a particular set up, above
the theoretical reduction potential (0.8V for silver).

A high rate of production under a large potential means collision and
aggregation is more likely, before the particles become solvated
(surrounded by water molecules) and resist such aggregation, and the
distance to the cathode is traversed at a much faster rate with higher
rate of plating out and chance of metallic particle inclusion.

I have no experience with a system such as yours and so cannot really
comment other than to say, the best quality DC generated CS is found in
systems where time is not a limit. Very low voltage, and current limited
to about 2.0 microAmps per mm^2 I have found to give good results...
clear sol with very little Tyndall effect.

No generating system requires the addition of electrolyte or starters,
which always compromise the finished product.

Mind you, most systems (even the humble 3 x 9V battery systems) are
capable of producing CS which is effective.

Regards
Ivan.



----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Young" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, 24 May 2000 16:32
Subject: Re: CS>What is best constant current?


Fred and list,

In my case, I take exception to your statement below.  I really do!!  I
built a constant current generator which produces exactly the same
constant current from the starting instant to the end.  At the moment,
it is set for 1.67 ma., which produces approximately 5 PPM/hour.  The
starting voltage can be over 500 volts, so it can handle very low
conductivity distilled water with no added electrolyte.  The batch I
brewed tonight started out at about 180 volts and ended after two hours
at around 15 volts, all at 1.67 ma.

I still don't know the optimum current to set my HVDC generator for.  Is
there a lower threshold of current (x microamps?) where the energy level
is too low to "knock off" silver atoms from the electrode?

--Steve

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Fred
  To: [email protected]
  Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2000 10:19 PM
  Subject: CS>What is best constant current?


  Constant current has nothing to do with the results, Steve! Those that
claim to use it
  really do not, since starting current is of course much lower!  Try
current limiting!

  <SNIP>

  [email protected]
  ------------------------------------------------------------------
  Steve said:
  Hi list,

  I am new to this list, but have designed and experimented with many CS
generators over the last few years (I am an EE).  But I need some help
with the electro-chemistry aspects.  For a DC generator, I have seen
conflicting recommendations on the best constant current to use.  For
example, one recommends 20 ma., and another says use less than 1 ma.
Some say particle size is smaller when less current and more time is
used for a given PPM.  What is the list wisdom on the value of constant
current to use?

  I have made both low voltage DC generators (which requires a bit of
baking soda for proper conductivity) and high voltage DC generators
(which don't need any additive to the steam distilled water).  Is the
optimum current the same for both low and high voltage constant current
generators?

  Thanks,
  Steve Young



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