Hi, Thought I'd give my $.02 on psychic healing. There is a region in the Philippines that is famous for its healers. As someone who has relatives from the Philippines, I have thought it would be interesting to check out the area, even though I am somewhat skeptical. However, I also know that the overall cultural beliefs of Filipinos support a combined allopathic and shamanic healing system, and many people use both with no conflict. I have a friend here in the US who is a kinesiologist who saw a Filipino healer (who lives here) and she said there was no way that he was faking it, she even had others in the room observing, and could feel his hands going into her body removing tumors. For her, the experience was successful and positive and she recommends her clients to see him. I met a woman who is from the former USSR state of Georgia who could also be considered a psychic healer. She can "diagnose" a person's illness just by looking at the person and running her hands around their auric field, and her track record is as accurate (or better) as an MD with all the current technology. She worked in a clinic in Moscow, and said it was common for healers to work along side of MDs. I also know that in Japan, Reiki is routinely offered in the hospitals. Perhaps it is not so much the placebo effect as the cultural beliefs which are much more open to using these healers in other countries. Long before there was allopathic medicine, healers and shamans (who often had abilities that we call psychic, but to me is not that different than the kind of ability that Einstein had) worked successfully to help manifest healing. Let us also remember that when someone seeks healing, regardless of whether it is via prayer, healers, alternative therapies and/or allopathic medicine, when the healing does occur, it occurs on many different levels and is not necessarily manifest only in the physical. As a social worker, I have worked with people who refuse to give up their victim identity and then cannot understand why, despite all the money they have spent on various treatment/therapies, their physical bodies do not heal. Meanwhile, there are others with severe physical disabilities who have peace within and live a happy and productive life despite how others may see them as lacking. Beth -- Commit Random Acts of Kindness
---------- >From: Marshall Dudley <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: CS>On Psychic Healing >Date: Fri, Dec 8, 2000, 1:41 PM > > [email protected] wrote: > >> Several years ago a very prosperous man from my home town (my brother >> worked for him) got cancer before age 60. He went to the Phillipines for >> psychic healing, did the routine, paid a lot of money and was dead in six >> months. Evidently he believed in it enough to go and pay for it, but his >> "belief" did not effect a cure. If the placebo effects really works it >> should have worked for him even if the "healer" was a fake and used chicken >> guts to put on a show. > > Not necessarily. If you look at trials for new medicines you will find that the > placebo effect may work for 1 to 10% of the people. It does not effect the > other 90 to 99%. One person not being susceptable to the placebo effect is not > statistically significant, especially considering that the effect only affects 1 > out of 10 or less anyway. > > There are other possible explainations. Many of the people seeing them were > doing other things that would elicit a cure, including prayer, so it is > impossible to know which action, or combination of actions, worked. There were > more than one "healer" and a few really were gifted, but most were fakes. > > I am sure that there is no clear cut "this is the way it was", but rather a > combination of a lot of these factors. > > BTW, you are right. I had said cow, but I remember now they were chicken guts. > > Marshall > > > -- > The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > [email protected] -or- [email protected] > with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > To post, address your message to: [email protected] > Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> >
