Huh??? "Inorganic fluorides can be harmful"

Stannous Fluoride
Chemical listed as carcinogen or potential carcinogen.

Health Hazards
Chronic: Abdominal pain & vomiting
Signs and Symptoms of Overexposure: Possible staining of decalcified areas of
the teeth.

http://physchem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/T/tin_II_fluoride.html :

Toxicology
Toxic by inhalation, ingestion and in contact with skin. Corrosive - causes
burns. Typical PEL 2 mg/m3.
Toxicity data
(The meaning of any abbreviations which appear in this section is given
here.)
ORL-MUS LD50 184 mg kg-1
ORL-RAT LD50 360 mg kg-1

Risk phrases
(The meaning of any risk phrases which appear in this section is given here.)

R23 R24 R25 R34.

R23 Toxic by inhalation.
R24 Toxic in contact with skin.
R25 Toxic if swallowed.
R34 Causes burns.

Thus for a mouse the amount to kill 50% of the mice is 184 mg/kg.  For a 150
pound person that would translate to about
12.5 grams, or about 1/3 of an ounce.  That is pretty toxic in my book.

http://gandalf.pp.orst.edu/msds/DATA%5C2900.htm
SECTION V - Health Hazard Data
================================================================================
THRESHOLD LIMIT VALUE (TLV/TWA): 2 MG/M3 (AS TIN) TOXICITY: ESTIMATED LD-MAN:
2.5 G (AS FLUORIDE) EFFECTS OF OVEREXPOSURE HIGHLY IRRITATING BY SKIN
CONTACT. TOXIC BY INHALATION AND INGESTION CAUSING WEIGHT LOSS, ANOREXIA,
ANEMIA, WASTING AND CACHEXIA, DENTAL DEFECTS, SKIN RASHES, GASTRIC,
INTESTINAL, CIRCULATORY, RESPIRATORY AND NERVOUS COMPLAINT EMERGENCY AND
FIRST AID PROCEDURES GET MEDICAL ASSISTANCE FOR ALL CASES OF OVEREXPOSURE
SKIN: WASH WITH SOAP AND WATER THOROUGHLY EYES: FLUSH THOROUGHLY WITH WATER
FOR AT LEAST 15 MINUTES INHALATION: REMOVE TO FRESH AIR; GIVE ARTIFICIAL
RESPIRATION IF NOT BREATHING INGESTION: GET MEDICAL ASSISTANCE

http://hazard.com/msds/mf/old/fish/dev/fa14/522

Potential Health Effects
     Eye:
          May cause eye irritation.
     Skin:
          May cause skin irritation.
     Ingestion:
          Harmful if swallowed. May cause gastrointestinal irritation with
          nausea, vomiting and diarrhea. Ingestion of large amounts of
fluoride
          may include salivation, nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain, fever,
          labored breathing. Inorganic fluorides can be harmful.  Acute
          exposure to fluorine compounds can lead to digestive tract burns,
          and abdominal pain.
     Inhalation:
          May cause respiratory tract irritation. Exposure to the mist and
          vapor may erode exposed teeth.
     Chronic:
          Repeated exposure may cause erosion of teeth. Chronic exposure to
          fluoride compounds may cause systemic toxicity.


Here is another site on fluoridation:

http://www.fightfluoride.com/main.html

Marshall

Ivan Anderson wrote:

> Inorganic tin is non toxic, however some organic tin compounds are very
> toxic.
>
> http://www.who.int/water_sanitation_health/GDWQ/Chemicals/tinfull.htm
>
> Stannous fluoride is inorganic.
>
> Ivan.
>
> I should add that the electrolysis of tin looks to have a danger of
> generating a stannous hydride (SnH4) which is neurotoxic.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Monday, 4 June 2001 09:06
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: CS>Colloidal Tin?
> >
> >
> > Any comments on this? Do you think it could be harmful?
> > Oh, and there only charging $80 for a 1 oz bottle.
> >
> > ~Hanan
> >
> >
> > The proposed mechanism of ViraDerm as an antiviral is unclear. Studies
> > indicate that its patented formulation and its active ingredient,
> > stannous
> > fluoride (SnF2) interferes with cellular metabolism and cellular
> > membranes of
> > microorganisms including viral membranes of the herpes virus.
> > ViraDerm contains an antimicrobial  preparation which has been
> > safely used by
> > the medical community for more than 40 years. Over the years many
> > investigators have shown that stannous fluoride inhibits
> > bacterial growth.
> > Recent studies and observations by scientists proposed that
> > ionized tin or
> > stannous affect microbial cellular membranes.
> > Recent studies conducted by Embro Research Corporation, Procter &
> > Gamble and
> > Product Investigations show that ViraDerm can influence the course of a
> > herpes virus infection. It has been proposed that stannous ions (
> > Sn ++) in
> > ViraDerm bind to the membrane of herpes simplex virus preventing
> > its ability
> > to infect epidermal tissue.  It has been proposed that stannous
> > released by
> > ViraDerm is capable of crosslinking herpes virus DNA by bonding to its
> > negatively charged phosphate groups.
> >
>
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