Hello Frank and everyone,

For a while I used calcium carbonate to adjust fairly pure water to optimal
conductivity.  The tap water here is highly variably because it is a blend
of surface water and deep well(s) water from limestone strata.   I put water
of 350 PPM TDS through 30 micron > 1 Micron > carbon > RO > atmospheric
still; yielding about 0.4 micro Siemens.  According to Bruce Marx, his HV
process works optimally with a start water of about 0..8 PPM, or 1.5 micro
Siemens with the calibration of my meter.  I mixed a batch of calcium
carbonate about as strong as I could get it---don't remember the
conductivity---and used that to adjust the conductivity to 1.5 mS. That
method much more frequently produced a turbid yellow-tan sol.  Similar
effect with baking soda.  Tap water works much better, but I constantly must
adjust the addition because the water is variable, even when stored.

The concentration at which the fog would form was quite abrupt, and would
unpredictably happen in the last 15 minutes of a long run---about 2.5 hrs.
This without temperature control during process, but from a consistent start
temp of 75 F, +/- 0.5 or better.

The effect, though very discouraging, was quite beautiful; 3-D scroll-like
long horizontal turbinate clouds forming in the convection currents.  They
are relatively stable if you do not disturb the vessel after completion.

An off point question:  why does calcium carbonate dissolve so slowly?  Over
months, a saturate solution-with a bit of solids still on the bottom of the
bottle---will slowly rise in TDS. Why does it not just go up to point of
saturation? This is in a nearly full and tightly capped glass bottle.  To
not clutter, thanks in advance.

James-Osbourne: Holmes

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Key [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Monday, June 11, 2001 11:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: CS>Saline Starter Solutions: Do They Deserve Another Look?


I do not make DC sols and from the perspective of technical purity do not
recommend the use of salt. Therefore, the following is offered only for
informational value.

Any salt not containing chloride would increase conductivity thus speed up
cs
production. Sodium carbonate and sodium bicarbonate will work fine and not
contribute chloride. Sodium citrate should likewise work fine.

Sodium bicarbonate is what CSPro Systems uses. No chloride, so no silver
chloride. There are many salts that do not contain chloride since a salt is
a
metal and an acid. It is probably best to avoid salts containing nitrate for
obvious reasons.


frank key


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