I am curious about statements made in the following document. 1) In China when the recommended dosage (50 mg) of vitamin C were given to people in an area of high cancer the cancer was reduced? 2) Linus Paulings out lived all the Doctors who called him a fake? I have used on occasion a very high dose of vitamin C with very good results, I have heard more stories on how vitamin C has helped people then stories that it has not helped. I will continue to trust my intuition if something is good for me or not. Blessings ted
Carol wrote: > Forgive the length of this but this debunks Linus Paulings theory on > vitamin C as a fraud. Makes you think twice on taking the stuff. > Carol > > Art Robinson will be 59 in March. He was a chemistry student at > Caltech himself, and something of a whiz kid. He was one of the few > students ever to be appointed to the faculty of the University of > California (in San Diego) immediately after getting his Ph.D. He is > not pleased by many developments in America in the last generation, > especially at the intersection of science and politics, and his own > life has been beset by obstacles and tragedies. But he is a man of > steely determination and intensity, and he has achieved a good deal > since moving to Oregon 20 years ago. > > In the mid 1970's, after a few years at U.C. San Diego, Robinson > teamed up with Linus Pauling to form the Linus Pauling Institute of > Science and Medicine in Menlo Park, California. Robinson, president > and research director, revered Pauling both as a teacher and a > chemist, while Pauling had referred to him as "my principal and most > valued collaborator." Pauling had won two Nobel Prizes, for Chemistry > (1954), and Peace (1962), and by the mid 1970'S had widely publicized > the claim that Vitamin C could cure the common cold. In addition, he > said, "75 percent of all cancer can be prevented or cured by Vitamin C > alone." > > At the new institute, on Sandhill Road, Robinson devised some mouse > experiments to test this amazing theory. By the summer of 1978, he was > getting "highly embarrassing" results. At the mouse-equivalent of 10 > grams of Vitamin C a day—Pauling's recommended dose for humans-the > mice were getting more cancer, not less. Pauling responded to the > unwelcome news by entering Robinson's office one day and announcing > that he had in his breast pocket some damaging personal information. > He would overlook it, however, if Robinson were to resign all his > positions and turn over his research. When Robinson refused, Pauling > locked him out and kept the filing cabinets and computer tapes > containing nine years' worth of research. They were never recovered. > Pauling also told lab assistants to kill the 400 mice used for the > experiments. Pauling's later sworn testimony showed that the story > about the damaging information was invented, while experiments by the > Mayo Clinic conclusively proved that the theory about cancer and > Vitamin C was wrong. > > A sharp divergence of political opinion between the two men also > became apparent. A few years after he won the Nobel Peace Prize, > Pauling also won the Lenin Peace Prize. He told Robinson that he was > more proud of the Soviet than the Norwegian award. For his part, in > the spring of 1978 Robinson had given a speech at the Cato Institute, > then in San Francisco, deploring the government funding of science as > harmful to the independence that is essential to scientific inquiry. > > The Nobel fakery of > LINUS PAULING > Taken from EIR August 28,1984 > This was an interview of Dr. Arthur Robinson, head of the Oregon > Institute of Medical Science, a board member of the journal, > Mechanisms of Aging & Development. > > Linus Pauling spent nearly 1 million dollars trying among other things > to suppress Dr. Robinson's research which indicated that a moderate > dose of Vitamin C increased the incidence of cancer, but that another > diet, entirely different from the one that Pauling pushed on talk > shows, was far more effective in suppressing cancer. "The results > showed that if you gave mice the equivalent of the 5 to 10 grams a day > of Vitamin C that Pauling recommends for people, it about doubled the > cancer rate. If you give them massive multiple vitamins, it does too. > (Think about that, you Handful-of-Vitamin takers !) As you go up in > dose range, you near the lethal dose. And just under the lethal dose, > there starts to be a suppression of cancer. Then I became interested > in a raw fruits and vegetable diet for the mice. That was very > effective against cancer, it was remarkable". > > Linus Pauling tried to publish a paper claiming that a double dose of > his already high Vitamin C diet would essentially provide complete > protection against skin cancer in mice. Pauling apparently didn't do > the work and so may have been unaware that the double dose was > absolutely lethal and that none of the mice lived. He later claimed > that this was a great discovery about cancer. > Dr Robinson suggests that "it appears increasingly that Vitamin C is > mutagenic in large amounts in aerobic solutions, and it is not at all > clear that you don't increase the chances or the risk of cancer if you > pour 10 or 20 grams a day into people's stomachs and intestines for > years. > > Now stay with this stuff PLEASE! You probably still believe that > Vitamin C supplements are good for you, regardless of what research > people found out about mice. It's ok! The real point of all this is > that YOU have to sort out what is truth from politics and economics, > and I hope to be able to give you some tools to do just this. > > Linus Pauling then published an article in PREVENTION Magazine. He > says that "75% of all cancer can be prevented and cured by Vitamin C > alone" He said this without a shred of evidence. The Mayo Clinic goes > out and does a study to prove Pauling wrong - and that's easy. 15 > other studies concluded that Pauling was preaching nonsense.Vitamin C > doesn't cure cancer. But Pauling gets a lot of press. He got more > press by talking about himself and his wife. He put himself and his > wife on 10 grams of Vitamin C a day. She lasted ten years before dying > of stomach cancer. Dr. Robinson points out that she was bathing her > stomach with an enormous amount of mutagenic material for 10 years. He > doesn't know if that is why she got it, but it is the sort of thing > that he would worry about in the long term. Linus himself died of > cancer at age 93. > > For a detailed account of Linus Pauling's IgNobel conduct, see > Accuracy in Media October-B 1994 XXIII-20 "Linus Pauling: Crank or > Genius" by Dr. Thomas H. Jukes. > > Most people confuse ascorbic acid and adsorbates with Vitamin C. They > are not the same. Ascorbic acid is the antioxidant portion of the > vitamin C complex. Natural vitamin C is made up of at least 10 > different, distinct molecules that we know of. These include ascorbic > acid (which is only the preservative portion of the nutritional > complex), the enzyme tyrosinase (needed to make organic copper), > rutin, bioflavanoids (vitamin p), organic copper, manganese, and a > host of other phytochemicals including enzymes, trace mineral > activators and more. > > . The FDA (our protector) allows drug companies to sell synthetic > ascorbic acid as Vitamin C, and allows them to infer that the benefits > derived from taking their product will be the same as taking the real > stuff. > > 90% of all the ascorbic acid in the US is manufactured by pouring > battery acid or hydrochloric acid on corn syrup. [YUM} > > The National Academy of Sciences (NAS) suggests that the optimal dose > of vitamin C is 200 mgs. Most people who take Megadoses of adsorbates > show severe vitamin C deficiency when tested properly says Lita Lee, > Ph.D. For more information on natural vitamin C versus ascorbic acid, > see chapter 22 of her book "Radiation Protection Manual". > > Vitamin C Pills cause hardening of the arteries? > > A new study raises the disturbing possibility that taking vitamin C > pills may speed up hardening of the arteries. When you extract one > component of food and give it at very high levels, you just don't know > what you are doing to the system, and it may be adverse, "said Dr. > James H. Dwyer, and epidemiologist who directed the study. He > presented his findings at a meeting in San Diego of the American Heart > Association 3/16/00. > Dwyer and colleagues from the University of Southern California > studied 573 outwardly healthy middle-aged men and women who work for > an electric utility in Los Angeles. About 30 percent of them regularly > took various vitamins. > > The study found no clear-cut sign that getting lots of vitamin C from > food or a daily multi vitamin does any harm. But those taking vitamin > C pills had accelerated thickening of the walls of the big arteries in > their necks. > > In fact the more they took, the faster the buildup. People taking 500 > milligrams of vitamin C daily for at least a year had a 2 1/2 times > greater rate of thickening than did those who avoided supplements. > Among smokers the rate was 5 times greater. > > Ascorbic Acid contributes to coronary heart disease? > > Advocates of Vitamin C supplements cite a study by University of > Buffalo epidemiologists that shows that people with higher levels of > Vitamin C in their blood serum have lower levels of a marker for > oxidative stress. The researchers tested the actual blood level of > Vitamin C. I have no problem with this. The question is, does taking > synthetic concentrated ascorbic acid actually raise the level of > Vitamin C in your blood serum. Tests that Dr. Bruce West have run > indicate that Vitamin C concentrates (ascorbic acid) produce NO > difference in blood serum levels of Vitamin C. > > Large amounts of ascorbic acid produce a copper and tyrosinase > deficiency (weakens the adrenal glands) just as high doses of calcium > or zinc produce a magnesium or copper deficiency. Don't take high > doses of artificial supplements even if they claim to be "ALL > NATURAL". All natural means: "of the earth". Plastic is "ALL NATURAL". > What you should be looking for is something resembling: "Made from > fruits and vegetables below 70 degrees F." rom: [email protected] > > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 4:31 PM > Subject: CS>Study Indicates that Vitamin C is Not Effective > for Colds > http://www.theage.com.au/news/national/2001/10/01/FFX6WSBQ7SC.html > > Study rebuts 'myth' of vitamin C cold cure > > The Age > 1 OCtober 2001 > By MARY-ANNE TOY > HEALTH EDITOR > Monday 1 October 2001 > > The theory that high doses of vitamin C can cure the common > cold - first > advocated in 1970 by dual Nobel Prize winner Linus Pauling - > is a myth, > according to an Australian study. > > The study's leader, Robert Douglas, of the National Centre > for > Epidemiology and Population Health, at the Australian > National > University, said he had stopped taking vitamin C on the > strength of the > finding. > > The study involved 400 volunteers from the ANU in Canberra. > It found that > vitamin C taken at the onset of a cold had no effect on the > duration or > severity of symptoms in healthy adults. > > Professor Douglas said he had conducted his study because > results from > previous ones had been inconclusive. > > "It was pretty clear that vitamin C couldn't prevent people > from getting > colds, but there was still a question mark over whether it > did something > to treat colds," Professor Douglas said. > > "There have been four other studies with ambiguous findings, > but there > was nothing ambiguous about our study." > > But groups such as F H Faulding, the market leader in health > supplements, > and the Centre for Complementary Medicine, said the study > was flawed > because participants did not take strong enough doses for a > long enough > period. > > The 400 volunteers were randomised to receive one of four > interventions - > a "placebo" dose of 0.03 grams a day of vitamin C; one gram > a day; three > grams a day, or three grams a day of the vitamin plus other > additives - > without knowing what dose they were taking. > > Volunteers were given bottles, tablets and a "respiratory > event card" to > fill out if they began to get a cold. If a volunteer had at > least two > symptoms for a minimum of four hours (such as a sore or > scratchy throat, > nasal congestion or discharge, a headache or stinging eyes) > they were to > start the tablets as soon as possible, preferably within > four hours. They > were asked to continue the tablets for the next two days and > record their > symptoms on the card. > > One hundred and forty-nine participants returned records of > 184 cold > episodes. The study, published today in the Medical Journal > of Australia, > found no significant differences in any measure of cold > duration or > severity between the four medication groups. > > The placebo group had the shortest duration of nasal, > systemic and > overall cold symptoms but the difference was not > statistically > significant. > > However, Marc Cohen, director of the Centre for > Complementary Medicine at > Monash University, said the study was seriously flawed. A > therapeutic > dose should be at least five grams a day; participants were > too slow to > take their first dose (average time between onset and first > dose was 13 > hours) and vitamin C was taken for only just over two days. > > Dr Cohen said there were no conclusive studies about whether > vitamin C > helped colds, and it was frustrating that the new study had > such major > flaws. > > Naturopath and pharmacist Lesley Braun, a consultant to > Faulding, said > the study only proved that a particular protocol (1-3 grams > of vitamin C > taken for just over two days) was ineffective. "This is not > to say that > other protocols don't work," Ms Braun said. > > American chemist Linus Pauling, who was twice awarded the > Nobel Prize for > science, sparked the vitamin supplement craze when he > published the book > Vitamin C and the Common Cold in 1970 and Cancer and Vitamin > C in 1979. > > Australians bought $27 million worth of vitamin C last year > from > pharmacies and grocery stores. > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.281 / Virus Database: 149 - Release Date: > 9/18/01 > -- Ted Helping Hand Consulting http://www.helpinghandconsulting.com
