Ferry wise words Ted,

Johan.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ted Windsor" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 5:43 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Study Indicates that Vitamin C is Not Effective for Colds


> All I can suggest is that you try Vitamin C and see if it works for you,
for me
> it works, so I wonder what the agenda really is with all this writing
against
> Vitamin C, what in it for those who say it does not work?
> Blessings
> Ted
>
> Carol wrote:
>
> >     In reality, it was Linus Paulings Institute that had to gain since
one
> > of his major contributers was a company that produced and distributed
> > vitamin c. Dr. Art Robinson who trained under and headed Paulings
institute
> > for quite a number of years had everything to lose. He in fact was fired
for
> > his research which went against everything Pauling had been saying at
that
> > time.  There were also other institutions such as the Mayo Clinic which
> > showed what Pauling was saying was not true.  Here is part of an article
> > about Pauling from AIM.org(accuracy in media) which explains a lot about
him
> > that the mainstream media never reported.
> >
> > Severo's(The New York Times) lengthy obituary skirted around kookier
details
> > of his career. In his own field of chemistry, Pauling was frequently
> > criticized as grabbing credit for research done by colleagues. When he
> > ventured into medicine, as a windy advocate of Vitamin C as a cure-all
> > panacea for everything from the common cold to AIDS and drug addiction,
> > Pauling defended such quacks as a California physician who treated
cervical
> > cancer with coffee and buttermilk enemas. He was tantamount to a food
> > faddist poster boy during his last decades.
> >
> > In political affairs, Pauling was the epitome of the useful idiot so
> > skillfully exploited by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. He lent
his
> > name---and prestige as a Nobel laureate---to a nuclear ban campaign
> > orchestrated by the Kremlin. That the campaign put his own nation at
risk
> > did not concern Pauling, a chronic publicity hound. Wearing his
trademark
> > black beret, Pauling pranced on picket lines from Washington to San
> > Francisco, a puppet of Soviet operatives working to weaken America's
defense
> > and internal security agencies.
> >
> > Dr. Thomas Jukes, professor of medical physics at the University of
> > California at Berkeley, and a member of AIM's national advisory board,
was a
> > Pauling watcher for years. He questioned whether Pauling's celebrity was
due
> > to original work or a knack for self-promotion. Jukes wrote, "Was
Pauling
> > mentally superior to practically all other human beings? Did his mind
work
> > faster and better than any others? He alleged that his meditations
produced
> > insight that revealed the answer to scientific problems. Did he have
unique
> > mental powers in this regard? Was he a real scientific super-giant? Or
was
> > he unusually skilled at using the ideas of other people and publicizing
them
> > as his own?"
> >
> > As an example of Pauling's glory-grabbing, Jukes cited his claim to the
> > discovery of the alpha helix in protein structure, a landmark event.
James
> > Watson, in his book The Double Helix, described how Pauling had
presented
> > his claim during a lecture: "The words came out as if he had been in
show
> > business all his life. A curtain kept his model hidden until near the
end of
> > his lecture, when he proudly unveiled his latest creation. Then, with
his
> > eyes twinkling, Linus explained the specific characteristics that made
his
> > model--the alpha helix-uniquely beautiful."
> >
> > But as Jukes noted, "The alpha helix was not his discovery. It was that
of a
> > black colleague, Dr. Herman Branson." Branson later became president of
> > Lincoln University in Pennsylvania. Branson gave his account of the
> > discovery in a 1984 letter to persons writing a Pauling biography.
> >
> > In 1948-49, while working under Pauling at the California Institute of
> > Techology, Branson was asked to do research on how amino acids might be
> > arranged in a protein molecule. To summarize a very technical scientific
> > matter, Branson proposed a single helix. Pauling disagreed with Branson,
> > telling him that it was "too tight" to fit a protein molecule. But
Branson
> > went ahead and constructed a model showing the alpha helix. A Pauling
> > associate named Corey saw it and said, "Well, I'll be damned." Branson
wrote
> > up his findings in the summer of 1949 and went on to other work.
> >
> > A year later Pauling wrote up the discovery listing Corey and Branson as
> > co-authors. In 1988 he published a book in which he took all the credit
for
> > the discovery, saying that he found it by folding paper. Branson was not
> > mentioned. Branson wrote that he "resented" how Pauling had handled the
> > matter.
> >
> > Pauling's biographers, Ted G. Goertzel and his parents Victor and
Mildred,
> > wrote, "In the case of DNA, Pauling rushed into print with a paper that
> > incorporated errors so basic that they should have been caught by any
> > student who has mastered Pauling's introductory chemistry
text....Apparently
> > Pauling was willing to risk making errors in the hope that he would be
given
> > credit for publishing the first, even if partly incorrect, model of
DNA."
> >
> > Jukes showed that Pauling took credit (along with colleagues) for
findings
> > concerning molecular disease that actually had been documented by a
British
> > scientist, Dr. A.E. Garrod, in 1908---when Pauling was seven years old.
> >
> > IgNobel Conduct
> >
> > Pauling's most publicized legacy, his advocacy of mega-doses of Vitamin
C to
> > counter cancer and' the common cold, well could be a legacy of harm to
human
> > health. Pauling's zealotry persuaded millions of Americans to put their
> > faith in Vitamin C. Unfortunately, few of these persons realized the
dangers
> > they incur by following Pauling's advice.
> >
> > Pauling commenced his Vitamin C crusade in 1966, when (at age 65) he
> > casually remarked at a banquet that he would like to live 15 or 20 years
> > longer. A man named Irwin Stone suggested taking massive doses of
Vitamin C.
> > Rather than doing any scientific research on whether the substance
actually
> > helped human health, Pauling eagerly signed on as a Vitamin C advocate.
His
> > book, Vitamin C and the Common Cold, published in 1970, was a national
> > best-seller for weeks. He claimed that one gram daily would cut the
> > incidence of common colds by 45 percent for most persons, and that
others
> > might need larger amounts. A second edition, issued in 1976 as Vitamin
C,
> > The Common Cold and the Flu, recommended even higher dosages.
> >
> > No less than 16 clinical studies concluded that Pauling was preaching
> > nonsense. One of the stronger dismissals came from the American
Psychiatric
> > Association, in contesting Pauling's claim that vitamin therapy might
> > alleviate schizophrenia. The APA wrote, "The credibility of the
megavitamin
> > proponents is low. Their credibility is further diminished by a
consistent
> > refusal over the past decade to perform controlled experiments and to
report
> > their results in a scientifically acceptable fashion. Under these
> > circumstances, [the APA] considers the massive publicity which they
> > promulgate via radio, the lay press and popular books...to be
deplorable."
> >
> > Severo's obituary did mention that researchers at the Mayo Clinic and
> > elsewhere had challenged Pauling's claim about the efficacy of Vitamin C
as
> > a cancer preventative. But he gave surprisingly short shrift to a
tumultous
> > episode involving Dr. Arthur B. Robinson, a onetime Pauling student who
> > later worked at the Pauling Institute of Science and Medicine. In the
1970s
> > Robinson did clinical tests on mice to evaluate the physical effects of
high
> > dosages of Vitamin C. To the dismay of his mentor, Robinson discovered
that
> > the quantities of Vitamin C recommended by Pauling doubled the incidence
of
> > skin cancer.
> >
> > Pauling responded by firing Robinson and destroying his laboratory data
and
> > killing the experimental mice. He also accused Robinson of "amateurish"
> > science. Robinson sued Pauling and his institute for libel and slander
and
> > collected an out-of-court settlement of $575,000--of which $425,000 was
for
> > damages, the remainder for legal fees. (An exhaustive account of the
> > Robinson affair ran in Barron's on June 11, 1979.)
> >
> > The Robinson case was important because it showed that Pauling wittingly
> > suppressed the scientific record in order to protect his unproven
Vitamin C
> > theories. Why was he so vigorous in defending a medical theory that in
fact
> > could harm persons?
> >
> > Columnist Colman McCarthy, a Pauling chum, offered an interesting theory
in
> > The Washington Post (Aug. 27) for the disdain with which the medical
> > community held his idol. "Such conventional treaters of colds as
physicians
> > beholden to drug companies and their high-priced pills tried to dismiss
> > Pauling as a dabbler in quackery," McCarthy wrote. Perhaps. But as Dr.
James
> > Lowell wrote in Nutrition Forum in May 1985, 'The largest corporate
donor
> > (over $500,000) to Pauling's institute has been Hoffman- La Roche, the
> > pharmaceutical giant which is the dominant factor
> > in world-wide production of Vitamin C. Many of the institute's
individual
> > donors have been solicited with the help of Rodale Press (publishers of
> > Prevention magazine) and related organizations which have publicized the
> > institute and allowed the use of their mailing lists."
> >
> > The New York Times's distortion of the validity of Pauling' s work
continued
> > after the glowing Severo obituary. On August 28 the Times published a
letter
> > from Stephen Lawson, chief executive officer of the Linus Pauling
Institute,
> > continuing the argument that Vitamin C helped reduce the incidence of
> > cancer, and dismissing debunking by scientists at the Mayo Clinic and
> > elsewhere.
> >
> > Dr. Victor Herbert, of the Mount Sinai School of Medicine, rebutted
Lawson
> > in a letter which the Times did not publish. He wrote, "Vitamin C is not
> > only worthless against heart disease and cancer, but harmful..."
> >
> > The Faddists' Friend
> >
> > Another facet of Pauling's career ignored by the Times was his record of
> > defending fellow faddists, including some accused of highly questionable
> > medical practices. In 1984 he appeared before the California Board of
> > Medical Quality Assurance on behalf of a Mill Valley physician who
attended
> > a 56-year-old woman diagnosed as having treatable cervical cancer. The
> > physician chose to treat her with no less than 99 remedies, including
coffee
> > and buttermilk enemas, herbs and enzymes. She died.
> >
> > Twin boys aged four years, who complained of earache, were treated with
> > coffee enemas twice daily and 70,000 units of Vitamin A. Pauling's
testimony
> > was that coffee enemas might have had value because they clean out the
lower
> > bowel. Despite Pauling's efforts, the physician lost his license.
> >
> > In another case, Pauling defended a vitamin promoter who sold by mail a
> > paper test to measure Vitamin C levels in the urine. He claimed that
keeping
> > a constant flow "probably offers 100 percent protection against bladder
> > cancer." He also asserted that Vita- min C could cure drug addiction.
The
> > postal inspectors put the man out of business.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bitbucket13" <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Monday, October 01, 2001 8:53 PM
> > Subject: Re: CS>Study Indicates that Vitamin C is Not Effective for
Colds
> >
> > > On Mon, 1 Oct 2001 07:10:18 -0700, Carol wrote:
> > > >Forgive the length of this but this debunks Linus  Paulings theory
> > > >on vitamin C as a fraud.  Makes you think twice on taking  the
> > > >stuff.  Carol
> > >
> > > I belong to an alternative cancer group here in Australia.
> > >
> > > This document has been getting around for a while. This has got to be
> > > a fake! It seems to be the opposite of the truth. The medical
> > > profession has something to gain by discrediting Vitamin C because it
> > > is not good for business. Will doctors promote CS from their offices?
> > > Of course they wont. So it is with C.  Vitamin C has been given to
> > > cancer patients with good results - there have been no cautions
> > > raised from the alternative industry. Others have tested vitamin C
> > > too with positive results.
> > >
> > > The establishment has a long and proven track record in persecuting
> > > cancer reseachers using litigation, lies, and deception. Why should
> > > this document be any different?
> > >
> > >
> > >
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