In a message dated 10/04/2001 4:34:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[email protected] writes:


> Peter:
> >>Furthermore, I believe that vendors should be able to discuss freely the 
> pros
> >>and cons of various cs products, including their own, so long it is done 
> in a
> >>civil manner. Without these type of educational exchanges the list would
> >>not be the same.
> 
> Roger:
> >Don't the venders' websites give them ample opportunity to tout their 
> wears?
> >If we allow venders to engage one another on this List about whose CS is
> >the best, I don't believe there will be any winners, only losers, and that
> >includes us. Scientific debate? Yes, of course, but let's guard against an
> >endless game of oneupsmanship.
> 


There is no reason to try to keep venders off the list because, if they 
follow the rules and respect the fellow members, we will likely not even know 
that they are venders. 

I question that any vender of any value will not blow his own horn on their 
own products, especially if they really have done tests and conduced trials. 
These tests and trials can be shared with the list as a list member. There is 
no reason to battle. If what you know to be true is true then it is true. If 
not then maybe it would be good for all to know that. But no selling. 

If someone tells me about a HV system, about how great it is and how it makes 
the best CS in the most simple way - that is one thing, but if you tell me 
all that and then tell me you sell it ---- give me a break. Venders have very 
little credability when it comes to praise for the system they sell.  Now if 
the praise the system that some other vender sells that would be another 
story. But I doubt that is an area we never will have to worry about handling.

Next - when and where has it been shown that venders are any better at 
testing and designing. I could (but I don't) take that as an insult. When did 
they get blessed with all the smarts and we poor members miss out on the 
brains? And even if that were all true, all of us together can - I believe 
this - work it out on our own.

So my vote is no sales or sellers selling. Just share and help.

Just one members opinion