Thank you, Jason, for a superb essay --- IMHO this should be read and absorbed by everyone! Judy Down Maine
-----Original Message----- From: Jason / AVRA [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 11:26 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: CS & HTLV/Auto Immune Disorders Wow, Julie... Yes, the description of the problem with the nervous system does seem like a virus. The problem with such viruses is that they are very hard to get to and eliminate( hiding in nerve ganglia, perhaps ). I know that CS ( or should I say I believe? ) injected into the bloodstream can make a big difference in such viral conditions. But I think it does so by isolating the virus, keeping it out of the bloodstream, not eliminating it. The body must be restored to health, and one would be hard pressed to find any magic bullet that would do so. Since your friend is both a part of the medical field, and is unfamiliar with natural or alternative medicine, she faces a very tough dillema. Obviously such a person is not going to jump up, grab a hypo, and start injections! Nor should one be necessarily encouraged to do so! In such a situation, a treatment philosophy must be developed. In doing so, the predisposition of the individual concerned is always important. It really doesn't matter if a solution that will work is given, if the person would never consider applying it. In situations such as your friend's, addressing diet is very safe ground. In natural medicine, one doesn't "apply a treatment" per se, one really chooses a direction. That direction is always geared toward making adjustments in lifestyle that support optimum health. This philosophy is very hard to argue with, and promotes a healthy open mind without triggering the overly skeptical mind. If I, or other enthusiasts in our group, were to compile a list of things to do, any sane person would look at it, freak out, and throw it away. "It is too much! I can't go through with it!" There is a very nice secret for dealing with people in these matters. First, you wait until you are asked. Nobody likes being clubbed with alt med, or anything else! Once asked, it is wise to take actions in UNITY. In other words, don't compile something, like a list of remedies and a stack of books to read, and say "Ta ta, enjoy!" Walk them through it, be with them through it. This is healing. The biggest issue that turns the "normal" person to seek solutions in alt med is FEAR. FEAR, because they KNOW that what they are doing is not working. When you walk with someone, you can help alleviate their fear, and grant them the personal support they very much need. The secret, simply stated, is... NOT alone. The solution has to be attractive on some level, and expectation is the greatest killer of hope. How many tinkerers on this CS list found a great attraction because they could play with this fancy toy - the CS generator! See what makes it tick? How it works? Sit and watch it? Improve upon it? And through this process, found a lifelong friend... Whatever the attraction is, it must be there, beyond the fear of the illness. If I were in your position, and the individual were open to colloidal silver, I would start CS on the days off at about 1/2 ounce every 30 minutes during the waking hours ( for a maximum of about eight ounces a day to start ) for three consecutive days, and twice daily with four ounce doses. This is assuming that the nurse is working 12 hour shifts ( common for hospital nurses ) and has three days off. I have some interesting reports on viruses that suggest continuous use must be adhered to for about one month in order to see results when one is considering a chronic condition. 16 ounces daily might be a better starting point, but getting that done might be overly optimistic! Like some others on the list, the more I use colloidal silver, the more I become convinced that frequency of use is more critical than amount consumed. You may want to consider reading up on a macrobiotic diet. Do everything in one's power to support proper liver function. Simple things include plenty of good water, fresh lemon water, uncooked garlic, natural whole foods... Things that will invigorate the body rather than deplete it, to start. In short, with such an extensive condition it can be baffling to find a treatment that will respond. So you don't look for "a treatment", you start to apply an ideology, and the ideology must be one that the person can integrate into their current state of being. ----- Original Message ----- From: "wolfcreek1" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 8:09 PM Subject: Re: CS & HTLV/Auto Immune Disorders > Damian ~ > > Does CS help your auto immune disease? What other things have you tried? > Anything work well? I've known Patty for years and it seems like she is > almost always sick. I thought it strange since she was a nurse, but she > finally asked MY opinion. Though my friends and family love me, they think > I'm a bit whacked with all this holistic stuff. Being asked for my opinion > and suggestions is rather remarkable and I'd like to be able to point her in > a good direction. > > Thanks, > > Julie & Critters > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "damian" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 4:55 PM > Subject: Re: CS & HTLV/Auto Immune Disorders > > > > Not with that version of auto immune desease. I myself have such a desease > > where by the body attacks that which constitutes it. It started of with > > hypoparathyroidism, then when to autoimmune. Well thats what they said. It > > might been the in reverse who knows. I'm unsure if i have any info that > may > > help you. Though like everyone in this group would say dont give up. Oh > wait > > on I remember reading something to do with why the auto immune desease > kicks > > in. It has something to with a chemical or virus or something bonding to > the > > organ making the immune think its not a friend. I remember reading this on > a > > hyperparathyroidism forum. Not much help i know. > > > > Take care > > damian > > > > On Sunday 14 October 2001 09:27, wolfcreek1 wrote: > > > It's me again...I have a friend who's a nurse who has always gotten sick > AT > > > LEAST 5 or 6 times/year. She has an auto immune disorder and was just > told > > > she has a blood disease called HTLV type II which attacks the central > > > nervous system, mimics MS, causes numbness in hands and feet. She's > says > > > they (government) are just studying this disease now, but it's similar > to > > > HIV, but not HIV. > > > > > > Anyone with experience or info about this? She recently called asking > for > > > advice I'm trying to talk her into CS. She says the doc's always > prescribe > > > antibiotics and they rarely if ever work. > > > > > > Happy Howling, > > > > > > Julie & Critters > > > Wolf Creek Ranch > > > mailto:[email protected] > > > http://wolfcreekranch1.tripod.com/index.html > > > Home of Whispering Winds Wholistic Animal Sanctuary > > > "The person who says it cannot be done, should not interrupt the person > > > doing it." 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