Too vigerous stirring promotes the growth of the "grey fuzzies" on one electrode. The pressures of the water on that electrode prevents hydrogen bubble from growing large enough for their bouyancy to overcome their adhesion to the electrode and silver becomes trapped on the surface tension of the hydrogen bubbles via 'high speed' collosion. This forms a semi solid 'foamy' structure that grows in the direction of the water current and may sometimes fall off the electrode in a cylindrical chunk and sink to the bottom. [if using round wire for electrodes] The semi solid formation also prevents the hydrogen bubbles from growing, so new small bubbles form on top of the previous ones and you get thicker and thicker "grey fuzzy" deposits. The grey fuzzies are also semi insulative. If your generator has a voltage referencing circuit to indicate PPM [via ionic conductivity] or as a means of an automatic shut down, a thick build up will throw it out of calibration.
Running the stirrer at a slower speed [or shortening the stirrer] greatly reduces the incidence of the "grey fuzzies" The water should be visibly moving but not like a tornado. If the generator is allowed to just sit with power off, the grey fuzzies will emit an "ion cloud" [misnomer in common usage] that's identical to the original cloud that formed them...as the hydrogen bubbles slowly dissipate, releasing trapped silver particles. Oddly, if the electrodes are well pitted and used, both formation of the grey fuzzies and silver oxides ["black stuff"...to be completely scientific about it] are reduced. The bubbler method of stirring might actually be superior to the mechanical stirrer where deposits are concerned because upward motion of the bubbles might tend to wipe the electrodes clean of hydrogen bubbles with bubble to bubble collisions...but not having tried it, I don't know for sure. What all that added dissolved oxygen does to the CS, I also don't know. I would think that it would combine with ionic silver and make a black deposit on the bottom of the container, blacken the CS or possibly lead to various colored crystal formation. It is my belief [not proven] that oxygen plays some role in the formation of larger crystals. In fact, the addition of hydrogen peroxide to distilled water and used as a 'starter' has produced very large , very silvery, metal flakes [just like what you'd find in metal flake paint] ...and...adding a small amount of hydrogen peroxide will clear the color of colored CS. I believe that o3 and H2O2 have scavenging properties that interact with the oxygen in CS crystals [if the crystal does indeed have any oxygen in its matrix] and oxide deposits in some way. H2O2 will clean and shine a black electrode at first [very quickly]...then blacken it again later on. [weird!] Just exactly what does a CS crystal matrix consist of? [BTW, not saying that oxygen content..if there IS an oxygen componant..of a CS crystal/particle... is responsible for the color of the crystal/particle...just that it might have something to do with its size] What do charged silver ions 'grow' around to form a colloidal particle [crystal?] if the like charge is constantly repelling other like ions? [real question...not a statement] Taking into account orientation of some ions with oxygen atoms in water molecules. [hydration?]. What happens when ion concentration exceeds the water molecules available ? [well sure, particle precipitation...but what about that repulsive ion charge? Where does it go?] Could several AG+ ions share electrons with one O2 molecule or one oxygen atom resulting an 'over' charged particle? Would it even be possible to make colored CS with absolutely dissolved oxygen free water in a vaccuum or inert gas? Would particles form at all if there were no avenue for the ion charge to leak off or otherwise be neutralized? Or, can a pure silver multi atom particle have a charge, or a charge of greater than +1? Could a clear and colorless CS "go yellow" later on if it were kept in an oxygen free environment? I do believe and have observed that fresh ozonated distilled water forms heavier black deposits on both the electrode and the bottom of the container if the ion path gets lose to the bottom [O3- plus AG+ = silver oxides...right?] and is more likely to produce a yellow CS than the same water that has been allowed to vent for a few days. [bubbles form of the side of the container and bubble off...indicating the escape of dissolved gasses] Ken At 09:33 PM 11/10/01 -0700, you wrote: >Arnold, > >In my experience, stirring reduces it, but does not eliminate it. My >stirring is a rather gentile 30 RPM - maybe more vigorous stirring would be >better. >--Steve >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Arnold Beland" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Saturday, November 10, 2001 2:14 PM >Subject: CS>Question for those using mechanical stirring > > > > Will mechanical stirring prevent the formation of silver oxide on the >anode? > >Arnold > > > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: >[email protected] -or- [email protected] >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > >To post, address your message to: [email protected] >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > Tired of buying questionable qaulity colloidal silver at high health food store prices? Make your own high quality Colloidal Silver at home with this automatic process, current controlled colloidal silver generator. http://www.silverpuppy.com
