What makes you so sure the Vancomycin is killing the infection and how long has
he been on it? My father died on April 26, 2001 from a nosocomial infection
(MRSA) and a myriad of toxic drugs that shut his system down. When I saw the
bag of Vancomycin, I knew his days were numbered. That abx is very toxic,
especially in the elderly. The damage done to the organs can be caused from the
drug, which is exactly what happened to my dad, plus the fact it did not kill
the infection. Look into his eyes. Are they glassy looking? Is the chin area
very swollen and red? Arms?
I am warning you that you likely won't be told of the severe side effects
caused by Vancomycin. They will assure you it's being "monitored". What they
won't say is in the elderly, the so-called rare side effects is much more
prevelant.
A small amount of CS will do nothing sorry to say. I would add other
components (GSE), and although I won't suggest it, if he's on a breather, I'd
put CS in the machine.
We fought the hospital for days on end and they basically said we'd to find
"other arrangements" if we insisted on administering non-approved substances.
If MRSA isn't arrested by Vancomycin, it's VRE. Thousands die from noscomial
infections, and many are covered up. That is the truth.
>
> From: "John Osowiecki" <[email protected]>
> Date: 2002/03/13 Wed AM 07:56:04 CST
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: CS>Multi-system organ failure and CS..............
>
> Hello All,
> Here I go again with one of those REALLY technical questions.............
>
> My friend, Mikes' father is in the ICU with MRSA (Methicillin Resistant Staph
> Aureas) in his blood. He is in multi-system organ failure. His heart only
> has 15% function, he is on dialysis for kidney failure, and his liver is
> failing as well. He is currently on Vancomycin and Gentomycin to treat the
> MRSA. He is on dopamine, propofol, and livifed (norpine) for his heart. He
> is on Protonix and Alternagel for his stomach. He is being fed via an NG
> tube, as well as Hyperal through a central line.
>
> Prior to the MRSA infection he was in good health. The doctors have given
> Mike authorization to use alternative treatments, although Mike had to sign a
> release of liability. (HUGE STEP, in a hospital setting). Mike has been
> giving him small amounts of CS as well as Coral Calcium (from Health Thru
> Nutrition). He is also considering starting him on Milk Thistle complex (for
> his liver), Nettleseed complex (for his kidney) and Fu Zheng (for his immune
> system.......this product is made by herbalist amalcomist). I spoke to him
> at length this morning and he pleaded with me to ask the list for opinions
> and input (yes, I brag about you all, alot! ~:-})
>
> As many of you know, I have a chronically ill child, and am very aware of
> what it is like to have a loved one in the situation that mikes' father is
> in. I also believe in combining traditional medicine (when issues are so
> complex) with a wholistic approach. I gave Mike information from my
> experience with multi-system organ failure and the use of
> CS.............which is this: When we are dealing with a blood infection
> like MRSA, CS will kill the infection, but the problem is that since his
> liver is failing, it will not be able to adequately remove the dead toxins
> from his body, and can cause further complications. Since his father is in
> the ICU and receiving heavy doses of IV antibiotics that are toxic to the
> liver, AND killing the infection, I think that adding CS would overload the
> liver even more than the doctors have, and I advised against him using it,
> right now. I know that others of you (like Brooks Bradley ~:-}) might have
> some experience with this type of infection and situation, and might be able
> to provide some information from your personal experience. Another thing
> that I reminded Mike of is that nutritional supplements and herbs CAN
> interact severely with mainstream medicine, and that it is VERY important to
> be properly informed of any contraindications. The problem is that the
> doctors and pharmacy at the hospital don't have any idea what these
> supplements are...........and the friends that he is getting his supplement
> info from aren't educated in mainstream medicine and have absolutely no idea
> about what the medications that he is on, even are. So.............I told
> him that he needed to really be sure that he was making educated decisions
> before he gave him any additional supplements.........and he pleaded with me
> to reach out to all of you.
>
> Hence this email.
>
> Thank you for any input or opinions that you can give.
> I appreciate your time,
> God Bless,
> Christiane
>
>
Hello All,
Here I go again with one of those REALLY technical
questions.............
My friend, Mikes' father is in the ICU with
MRSA (Methicillin Resistant Staph Aureas) in his blood. He is in
multi-system organ failure. His heart only has 15% function, he is on
dialysis for kidney failure, and his liver is failing as well. He is
currently on Vancomycin and Gentomycin to treat the MRSA. He is on
dopamine, propofol, and livifed (norpine) for his heart. He is on Protonix
and Alternagel for his stomach. He is being fed via an NG tube, as well as
Hyperal through a central line.
Prior to the MRSA infection he was in good health.
The doctors have given Mike authorization to use alternative treatments,
although Mike had to sign a release of liability. (HUGE STEP, in a
hospital setting). Mike has been giving him small amounts of CS as well as
Coral Calcium (from Health Thru Nutrition). He is also considering
starting him on Milk Thistle complex (for his liver), Nettleseed complex (for
his kidney) and Fu Zheng (for his immune system.......this product is made by
herbalist amalcomist). I spoke to him at length this morning and he
pleaded with me to ask the list for opinions and input (yes, I brag about you
all, alot! ~:-})
As many of you know, I have a chronically ill
child, and am very aware of what it is like to have a loved one in the situation
that mikes' father is in. I also believe in combining traditional medicine
(when issues are so complex) with a wholistic approach. I gave Mike information
from my experience with multi-system organ failure and the use of
CS.............which is this: When we are dealing with a blood infection
like MRSA, CS will kill the infection, but the problem is that since his liver
is failing, it will not be able to adequately remove the dead toxins from his
body, and can cause further complications. Since his father is in the ICU
and receiving heavy doses of IV antibiotics that are toxic to the liver, AND
killing the infection, I think that adding CS would overload the liver even more
than the doctors have, and I advised against him using it, right now. I know
that others of you (like Brooks Bradley ~:-}) might have some
experience with this type of infection and situation, and might be able to
provide some information from your personal experience. Another thing that
I reminded Mike of is that nutritional supplements and herbs CAN interact
severely with mainstream medicine, and that it is VERY important to be properly
informed of any contraindications. The problem is that the doctors and
pharmacy at the hospital don't have any idea what these supplements
are...........and the friends that he is getting his supplement info from aren't
educated in mainstream medicine and have absolutely no idea about what the
medications that he is on, even are. So.............I told him that he
needed to really be sure that he was making educated decisions before he gave
him any additional supplements.........and he pleaded with me to reach out to
all of you.
Hence this email.
Thank you for any input or opinions that you can
give.
I appreciate your time,
God Bless,
Christiane
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