Hi Ivan,
                Was wondering whether you were still on the list. Are you
aware of any on-line references on this matter? What happens when such a
concentrate is diluted with water to various concentrations? Is the complex
unstable at lower concentrations?

regards, Kevin Nolan

----- Original Message -----
From: "I Anderson" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 10:56 AM
Subject: RE: CS>100-500 PPM CS and how it's made.


> Yes Marshall you are correct,
> the solubility of silver citrate is 280ppm.
> However it is thought that the silver-citrate complex formed by the
> electrolysis of silver in a citric acid solution is either a
> zwitterion where the negative charge is on the complex itself (Ag+CA-)
> where the total charge of the complex is neutral, or the empty 5s
> orbital of Ag+ overlaps with the delocalised .pi. bond on one of the
> carboxyl groups of citric acid.
>
> This concentration of silver is found when generated into a 10% citric
> acid solution, higher citric acid concentrations allow higher silver
> concentrations.
>
> Ivan.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Marshall Dudley [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: Sunday, 24 March 2002 6:48 a.m.
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: CS>100-500 PPM CS and how it's made.
> >
> >
> > That is interesting.  The solubility of silver citrate is 280
> > ppm.  And of
> > course the silver content of that would be less than the
> > whole molecule.
> >
> > I wonder what the other part is doing.
> >
> > Marshall
> >
> > Kevin Nolan wrote:
> >
> > > I recall Ivan Anderson stating he had managed to
> > electrolytically produce ~
> > > 1000 PPM CS (probably an ionic complex) via citric acid
> > addition. Here is an
> > > excerpt:
> > > "....however it is known that brewing in a citric acid
> > solution enables one
> > > to
> > > increase the silver content to more than a thousand ppm...."
> > >
> > > Kevin Nolan
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Russ Rosser" <[email protected]>
> > > To: <[email protected]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 8:30 AM
> > > Subject: Re: CS>100-500 PPM CS and how it's made.
> > >
> > > > herbalhealer.com also has 500 ppm.  If it can't be made
> > electrically
> > > without
> > > > agglomeration, perhaps it's distilled down from a
> > reasonablly concentrated
> > > > batch??
> > > >
> > > > --Russ
> > > >
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