Christians make the same mistake that Muslims do...worshipping the
messenger instead of following the message.
 Jesus said, "You are as I am" [paraphrased?]
 So, if Jesus is God, so are each of us in concert, God ,and there is no
real division between any of us and each other or God.
 Therefore , all seeming divisions are illusions we hold by way of our
denial of our own God power to create the world we live in.
 The galdern rule really is, "You CANNOT do onto another without doing onto
yourself" [in a positive OR negative fashion] But you also have the power
of misperception inherent in true power.
 It would seem that "being" God, each and every one equally, is an awesome
responsibility that we just don't care to address. We want to give that
power away [them blame someone else for having it]. WE are so powerful that
we can even believe we are powerless...and prove it.
 So we don't often use our powers of creation consciously. We consistantly
mistake what "power" IS, thinking that it exists somewhere outside of
us...thinking that it has something to do with intimidation when
intimidation and being intimidated is about DENYING power rather than
having it.
But...and a great BIG but...we cannot not use those powers that we have "AS
God".
..and what we experience as our collective reality is the sum average of
everyones creative power that they cannot not use.
 Each persons experience is 'tilted' towards their personal beliefs and
events 'tend' to be attracted to them accordingly by way of various
mechanisms.

 Bottom line:  God is not against anyone. God has no preference to what we
create. NOTHING can threaten God.
 According to that point of view..and what Jesus 'said', "WE" cannot be
threatened any more than God can.
 But we CAN misidentify ourselves and experience threat no matter how
untrue it may be.
 "The kingdom of heaven is at hand" does not mean it's coming...it means
it's here, now... and never wasn't here. But it also means we can make our
experience of it as we wish because THAT'S WHAT WE DO and it's something
that we CANNOT NOT DO. [What we wish doesn't change Heaven, it only changes
what we see it as.]
 WE have all eternity, cannot "really" be harmed and God knows it. So, any
preference is mute. The choice of our experience is totally ours to make
and MUST be made...it cannot not be made. The only choice we DON'T have is
the choice to not choose.
 God has all eternity for us to clear our minds. He is not waiting...[time,
being irrelevent to eternity, "waiting" has no meaning]
 The creative gift was given without restrictions, as perfect,
indescrimiatory and as absolute as the giver.  But we will experience that
which we cannot not do, no matter what.

 One of the greatest powers we have is that of perception. [It may well be
the ONLY 'real' power that exists.]  It can be said that the power of
perception is the actual mechanism of reality creation. It cannot not be used.
 Perception is a feedback loop. One sees an event, places a meaning upon it
[forms a belief], acts according to that belief, experiences the event
according to how it was handled, then confirms the belief according to what
'apparently' happened...and filters all future perception through that
filter, re-creating and re-inforcing that belief over and over again. 
 [Perception actually goes much further than that...actually creating
perceptions of perceptive organs and places for them to perceive events in]
Good spirals better. Bad spirals worse...each confirming itself "as true".
 When a person percieves threat, he denys his own power, placing it in the
hands of another. Then he wants it back and attacks.  As long as power is
placed in the hands of another and is percieved as something that can be
stolen, traded etc..there will always be fear  [perceptions of
powerlessness] and the accompanying preemptive attack [defense]

 Were Palestinians, Isrealis [anyone] willing to stand for what they
believe instead of kill for it, they would be unstoppable..and few would
want to stop them.
 But, they believe they have no power. They believe someone else has it,
that it was stolen. They believe they can kill for it, that, somehow
killing for power will return it to them.
 The problem here is that, if a person believes power can be stolen, it can
be stolen from them, therefore, it must be defended rather than simply
applied.
 Power cannot be stolen, only mis-defined and denied by falsely identifying
who and what you are.

 The peaceful [meek is the wrong word] shall eventually inherit the Earth
both because they create perceptions of co-operation AND those who believe
in helplessness and fear will destroy all of their own kind. [because
that's what that perception/believe does] 
 
This planet [in general] is suffering from a basic delusion.
 Something to ponder:
 If a person is unwilling to live in hell, he will either create heaven all
around him or leave this hell.
 Either way works.
 Creating relative hells and blaming each other for the perception of them
does not.

All religions are false.
 They each miss the point that the founders of those religions were trying
to make as the disciples of those messengers perverted the message
according to 'thier' beliefs, not held by the messenger. [If those beliefs
were not different, there would be no message]
 God is whole ...the very definition of 'whole'...and needs nothing. Not
worship, not homage, no pats on the back...NOTHING.
 Perceptions, being subject to the limitations of belief, do not accurately
describe reality.
 Any idea of differences between us is a delusion no matter how justified
self validating perceptions seem to make them.
 The space between us is defined by what cannot see
much...indeed...space/time itself. That which can see all , all at once, as
it is, knows what is really happening [nothing that can't be totally
changed by changing how it is seen]
 There is [really] no space anywhere that is not created by limiting the
perception of it.

 There are none who are trapped except in their own unwavering mind.
Beliefs about reality do not limit it, they only limit the perception of it
and what gets done with it.

 If a cell thought it was a discrete individual denying it's connection to
the body it was a part of, we would call it cancer.

 "Individual" and "absolute connection" are not opposite terms.

 basic clue
 You are not your body, your body is a perceptual product of you.
 The body does not have a soul. A soul has a body..many of them , in fact,
in many times, places and dimensions.  As many as it can imagine...as it,
itself, was imagined by another soul. [see fractals]
 The brain is in the mind..not vice versa. 
The brain is a perceptive filter and information processor that sees a
portion of the mind that's relative to this particlar reality construct.
 "Beliefs" are the programs that brain runs information through. Beliefs
define perceptions by placing values upon input that determine what is to
be seen or ignored, which in turn validate beliefs.

Programs can be very poorly written and still function for a while before
they crash.
 Believe nothing. The truth is everywhere, unchanged by perceptions of it.

But..no one knows they're asleep till they wake up, right?
>From Gods viewpoint, all is [pre] forgiven because none of it is real.
 It is US who must learn to use our own minds...our own power...if this
reality is to remain in mind.
ken

At 08:29 AM 4/4/02 +0600, you wrote:
>CS Lovers,
>Writing from a Muslim country I am reminded that people here revere
>Jesus Christ as a prophet, his words inspired.  And I'm hoping that what
>I have to say about Christ may be equally acceptable to those who choose
>not to believe that he is God, instead reflecting on the good that he
>has done.  Getting over a bad virus with the help of CS  I could only
>envison coming good health in imbibing CS, Christ the Savior.
>
>Is this not like the bread and wine, the body and blood, since it gives
>life?  Certainly it does not serve the representation of the bread and
>wine, but in as much as we have been given dominion over the resources
>of the world, CS renders an embodiment of the good that Christ the
>Savior stands for. After all in good health, physical, mental and
>spiritual we become like Christ.
>
>And are not the active foes of colloidal silver the very ones who would
>crucify Christ the Savior on His return?  Jesus said, 'How blessed are
>those who hunger and thirst after justice,' and among the many
>injustices is the suppression of legally sanctioned information
>regarding CS.  We also need to educate the unbelievers of colloidal
>silver, and struggle against the anti-Christ.
>
>Please forgive what may appear to be a bit of intrusiveness with regard
>to religion and proselytizing.  I am simply relating some thoughts on
>the work of one good man.  As with my good, Muslim breathern, if we so
>choose we may imagine that Christ is quite simply a prophet.
>Best to all.
>Reid
>
>
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