Ok...if we are going to bash Christians instead of concentrating on colloidal silver, I will be leaving the list. Can we get back on topic please? While I will freely stand and defend my faith, I will not bash my head against a stone wall in a hostile environment...for I don't feel it is appropriate do so here in this forum. I have a desire to use the God-given gift that silver has inherent to it...and I want to learn more about it. Can we get back on topic, please? * smile *
Kathie > Christians make the same mistake that Muslims do...worshipping the > messenger instead of following the message. > Jesus said, "You are as I am" [paraphrased?] > So, if Jesus is God, so are each of us in concert, God ,and there is no > real division between any of us and each other or God. > Therefore , all seeming divisions are illusions we hold by way of our > denial of our own God power to create the world we live in. > The galdern rule really is, "You CANNOT do onto another without doing onto > yourself" [in a positive OR negative fashion] But you also have the power > of misperception inherent in true power. > It would seem that "being" God, each and every one equally, is an awesome > responsibility that we just don't care to address. We want to give that > power away [them blame someone else for having it]. WE are so powerful that > we can even believe we are powerless...and prove it. > So we don't often use our powers of creation consciously. We consistantly > mistake what "power" IS, thinking that it exists somewhere outside of > us...thinking that it has something to do with intimidation when > intimidation and being intimidated is about DENYING power rather than > having it. > But...and a great BIG but...we cannot not use those powers that we have "AS > God". > ..and what we experience as our collective reality is the sum average of > everyones creative power that they cannot not use. > Each persons experience is 'tilted' towards their personal beliefs and > events 'tend' to be attracted to them accordingly by way of various > mechanisms. > > Bottom line: God is not against anyone. God has no preference to what we > create. NOTHING can threaten God. > According to that point of view..and what Jesus 'said', "WE" cannot be > threatened any more than God can. > But we CAN misidentify ourselves and experience threat no matter how > untrue it may be. > "The kingdom of heaven is at hand" does not mean it's coming...it means > it's here, now... and never wasn't here. But it also means we can make our > experience of it as we wish because THAT'S WHAT WE DO and it's something > that we CANNOT NOT DO. [What we wish doesn't change Heaven, it only changes > what we see it as.] > WE have all eternity, cannot "really" be harmed and God knows it. So, any > preference is mute. The choice of our experience is totally ours to make > and MUST be made...it cannot not be made. The only choice we DON'T have is > the choice to not choose. > God has all eternity for us to clear our minds. He is not waiting...[time, > being irrelevent to eternity, "waiting" has no meaning] > The creative gift was given without restrictions, as perfect, > indescrimiatory and as absolute as the giver. But we will experience that > which we cannot not do, no matter what. > > One of the greatest powers we have is that of perception. [It may well be > the ONLY 'real' power that exists.] It can be said that the power of > perception is the actual mechanism of reality creation. It cannot not be used. > Perception is a feedback loop. One sees an event, places a meaning upon it > [forms a belief], acts according to that belief, experiences the event > according to how it was handled, then confirms the belief according to what > 'apparently' happened...and filters all future perception through that > filter, re-creating and re-inforcing that belief over and over again. > [Perception actually goes much further than that...actually creating > perceptions of perceptive organs and places for them to perceive events in] > Good spirals better. Bad spirals worse...each confirming itself "as true". > When a person percieves threat, he denys his own power, placing it in the > hands of another. Then he wants it back and attacks. As long as power is > placed in the hands of another and is percieved as something that can be > stolen, traded etc..there will always be fear [perceptions of > powerlessness] and the accompanying preemptive attack [defense] > > Were Palestinians, Isrealis [anyone] willing to stand for what they > believe instead of kill for it, they would be unstoppable..and few would > want to stop them. > But, they believe they have no power. They believe someone else has it, > that it was stolen. They believe they can kill for it, that, somehow > killing for power will return it to them. > The problem here is that, if a person believes power can be stolen, it can > be stolen from them, therefore, it must be defended rather than simply > applied. > Power cannot be stolen, only mis-defined and denied by falsely identifying > who and what you are. > > The peaceful [meek is the wrong word] shall eventually inherit the Earth > both because they create perceptions of co-operation AND those who believe > in helplessness and fear will destroy all of their own kind. [because > that's what that perception/believe does] > > This planet [in general] is suffering from a basic delusion. > Something to ponder: > If a person is unwilling to live in hell, he will either create heaven all > around him or leave this hell. > Either way works. > Creating relative hells and blaming each other for the perception of them > does not. > > All religions are false. > They each miss the point that the founders of those religions were trying > to make as the disciples of those messengers perverted the message > according to 'thier' beliefs, not held by the messenger. [If those beliefs > were not different, there would be no message] > God is whole ...the very definition of 'whole'...and needs nothing. Not > worship, not homage, no pats on the back...NOTHING. > Perceptions, being subject to the limitations of belief, do not accurately > describe reality. > Any idea of differences between us is a delusion no matter how justified > self validating perceptions seem to make them. > The space between us is defined by what cannot see > much...indeed...space/time itself. That which can see all , all at once, as > it is, knows what is really happening [nothing that can't be totally > changed by changing how it is seen] > There is [really] no space anywhere that is not created by limiting the > perception of it. > > There are none who are trapped except in their own unwavering mind. > Beliefs about reality do not limit it, they only limit the perception of it > and what gets done with it. > > If a cell thought it was a discrete individual denying it's connection to > the body it was a part of, we would call it cancer. > > "Individual" and "absolute connection" are not opposite terms. > > basic clue > You are not your body, your body is a perceptual product of you. > The body does not have a soul. A soul has a body..many of them , in fact, > in many times, places and dimensions. As many as it can imagine...as it, > itself, was imagined by another soul. [see fractals] > The brain is in the mind..not vice versa. > The brain is a perceptive filter and information processor that sees a > portion of the mind that's relative to this particlar reality construct. > "Beliefs" are the programs that brain runs information through. Beliefs > define perceptions by placing values upon input that determine what is to > be seen or ignored, which in turn validate beliefs. > > Programs can be very poorly written and still function for a while before > they crash. > Believe nothing. The truth is everywhere, unchanged by perceptions of it. > > But..no one knows they're asleep till they wake up, right? > From Gods viewpoint, all is [pre] forgiven because none of it is real. > It is US who must learn to use our own minds...our own power...if this > reality is to remain in mind. > ken > > At 08:29 AM 4/4/02 +0600, you wrote: > >CS Lovers, > >Writing from a Muslim country I am reminded that people here revere > >Jesus Christ as a prophet, his words inspired. And I'm hoping that what > >I have to say about Christ may be equally acceptable to those who choose > >not to believe that he is God, instead reflecting on the good that he > >has done. Getting over a bad virus with the help of CS I could only > >envison coming good health in imbibing CS, Christ the Savior. > > > >Is this not like the bread and wine, the body and blood, since it gives > >life? Certainly it does not serve the representation of the bread and > >wine, but in as much as we have been given dominion over the resources > >of the world, CS renders an embodiment of the good that Christ the > >Savior stands for. After all in good health, physical, mental and > >spiritual we become like Christ. > > > >And are not the active foes of colloidal silver the very ones who would > >crucify Christ the Savior on His return? Jesus said, 'How blessed are > >those who hunger and thirst after justice,' and among the many > >injustices is the suppression of legally sanctioned information > >regarding CS. We also need to educate the unbelievers of colloidal > >silver, and struggle against the anti-Christ. > > > >Please forgive what may appear to be a bit of intrusiveness with regard > >to religion and proselytizing. I am simply relating some thoughts on > >the work of one good man. As with my good, Muslim breathern, if we so > >choose we may imagine that Christ is quite simply a prophet. > >Best to all. > >Reid > > > > > > > >-- > >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > > > >To join or quit silver-list or silver-digest send an e-mail message to: > >[email protected] -or- [email protected] > >with the word subscribe or unsubscribe in the SUBJECT line. > > > >To post, address your message to: [email protected] > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > > > > > >
