Greetings to all Silver list members
Ode Coyote wrote:
< I might be
crazy, but I see a relationship between color,
particle [crystal vs
size and oxygen.
The crystal shape of pure silver is 'face
centered cubic'.
......and..CS that dries on a white surface will stain that
surface brown.>
What if I say that I can hear the anti-microbial
properties in the 5 ppm Colloidal
Silver in Blue and taste the cellular proliferation in the 10 ppm
in Yellow. It sounds crazier
than you. But there are individuals in our midst who see,talk and
think like that. This trait is
inborn.
What is synesthesia?
With regards
Lew
Source:
<http://www.scientificamerican.com/askexpert_question.cfm?articleID=00019AA3
-7A7C-1D06-8E49809EC588EEDF>
Thomas J. Palmeri, Randolph B. Blake and René Marois of the psychology
department and the Center for Integrative and Cognitive Neuroscience at
Vanderbilt University study synesthesia. They provide the following
explanation:
When you eat chicken, does it feel pointy or round? Is a week shaped like a
tipped-over D with the days arranged counterclockwise? Does the note B taste
like horseradish? Do you get confused about appointments because Tuesday and
Thursday have the same color? Do you go to the wrong train station in New
York City because Grand Central has the same color as the 42nd Street
address of Penn Station? When you read a newspaper or listen to someone
speaking do you see a rainbow of colors? If so, you might have synesthesia.
Synesthesia is an anomalous blending of the senses in which the stimulation
of one modality simultaneously produces sensation in a different modality.
Synesthetes hear colors, feel sounds and taste shapes. What makes
synesthesia different from drug-induced hallucinations is that synesthetic
sensations are highly consistent: for particular synesthetes, the note F is
always a reddish shade of rust, a 3 is always pink or truck is always blue.
The estimated occurrence of synesthesia ranges from rarer than one in 20,000
to as prevalent as one in 200. Of the various manifestations of synesthesia,
the most common involves seeing monochromatic letters, digits and words in
unique colors<this is called grapheme-color synesthesia. One rather striking
observation is that such synesthetes all seem to experience very different
colors for the same graphemic cues. Different synesthetes may see 3 in
yellow, pink or red. Such synesthetic colors are not elicited by meaning,
because 2 may be orange but two is blue and 7 may be red but seven is green.
Even more perplexing is that synesthetes typically report seeing both the
color the character is printed in as well as their synesthetic color. For
example, is both blue (real color) and light green (synesthetic color).
Synesthetes report having unusually good memory for things such as phone
numbers, security codes and polysyllabic anatomical terminology because
digits, letters and syllables take on such a unique panoply of colors. But
synesthetes also report making computational errors because 6 and 8 have the
same color and claim to prejudge couples they meet because the colors of
their first names clash so hideously.
For too long, synesthetes were dismissed as having overactive imaginations,
confusing memories for perceptions or taking metaphorical speech far too
literally. Recent research, however, has documented the reality of
synesthesia and is beginning to make headway into understanding what might
cause such unusual perceptions.
Research has documented that synesthetic colors are perceived in much the
same way that nonsynesthetic individuals perceive real colors. Thus,
synesthetic color differences can facilitate performance on tasks in which
real color differences facilitate performance for nonsynesthetes and can
impair performance on tasks in which real color differences impair
performance for nonsynesthetes.
In one such task, people are asked to say the color of the ink a word is
printed in as quickly as possible (for example, responding "pink" to and
"blue" to ). For lexical synesthetes, these words take on unique colors.
When the synesthetic color matches the ink color, responses are fast. But
when the synesthetic color mismatches the ink color, responses are slow,
presumably because subjects need to resolve the conflict over which color
name to respond with. Although such results demonstrate that synesthesia is
automatic, in the sense that they cannot turn off their synesthesic
experience even when it interferes with a task, these results do not reveal
whether synesthetic colors are perceptions or memories.
To demonstrate the perceptual reality of synesthetic colors, researchers
have introduced synesthetic color differences into a variety of traditional
visual-perception tasks. Searching for a among ¹s is a difficult task
because the digits are so visually similar, differing by only a mirror
reflection. If the was colored orange and the ¹s were colored green, the
search task would be trivially easy because the orange digit visually pops
out from the background of green digits. When shown a display consisting of
monochromatic digits, we found that a synesthete could quickly find the
target because for him was orange but was green (see image).
Vilayanur Ramachandran and Edward M. Hubbard of the University of California
at San Diego, have reported complementary findings supporting the perceptual
reality of synesthetic colors. In one task, they presented synesthetes with
an array of equally-spaced letters and digits. Synesthetes reported
EVEN IF THE DIGITS are printed in black ink (top) a synesthete will see them
in color (bottom).
that these arrays organized themselves into distinct rows or columns
depending on whether the rows or columns of characters were the same
synesthetic color. This perceptual grouping based on synesthetic color is
analogous to the kind of perceptual grouping non-synesthetes experience with
real colors.
Claims for the perceptual reality of synesthetic colors have been bolstered
by recent functional brain imaging studies by researchers in the U. K.
showing that synesthetic color activates central visual areas of the brain
thought to be involved in perceiving real colors.
The neural mechanism by which synesthetic colors are automatically bound to
alphanumeric characters remains a mystery. One possibility is that
synesthesia might arise from some kind of anomalous cross-wiring between
brain areas that are normally segregated in nonsynesthetic individuals. For
grapheme-color synesthesia, there may be cross-wiring between digit and
letter processing areas and color processing areas in the visual cortex,
which occupy neighboring regions of the human brain.
The causes of synesthesia also remain unknown. Some scientists have
suggested that everyone is born synesthetic but that the typical
developmental trajectory results in these highly interconnected brain areas
becoming far more segregated. We do not know why synesthetes retain some of
these anomalous connections. A biological determinant may be partially at
work in certain cases of synesthesia, because the condition tends to run in
families; moreover, nearly six times as many women as men report
synesthesia. Whatever its etiology, synesthesia provides cognitive
neuroscientists with a unique opportunity to learn more about how the brain
creates our perceptual reality.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ode Coyote" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: CS>colloidal color
> On that note [speaking of snowflakes]
> I once tried using a small amount of H2O2 as a 'starter' to get the
> initial conductivity of DW up. [one teapoon of off the shelf 3% peroxide
to
> 46 oz of water] The result was the unending formation of brilliant silver
> "snowflakes" similar to what you'd find in a paperweight or in metalflake
> paint. The conductivity of the water never exceeded 14us even after many
> many hours.
> For this and other reasons, I suspect that oxygen plays a role in the
> formation of silver crystals altering their shape along with their size
and
> that the reflective or light scattering properties [color] may be related
> to the simultanious relationship of not only size, but the corresponding
> shape of a lattice structure which can be broken down with H2O2. Silver
is
> silver in color, oxygen has no color, yet silver oxides are black. Could
> there be an incomplete oxide?..not so much a 'compound' but more like an
> alloy?
> H2O2 will blast a silver oxide apart..the black on an electrode vanishes
> very quickly. Could it not also be blasting an alloy apart? flake] I
might be
> crazy, but I see a relationship between color, particle [crystal vs
> size and oxygen.
> The crystal shape of pure silver is 'face centered cubic'. Could the
> addition of one or two atoms of oxygen while the crystal is forming ..not
> as an compound so much as an alloy?] change that shape with a
corresponding
> relationship to size and refractive properties? Could a free O1 atom
[from
> the H2O2] tend to scavange the oxygen atom from such a hypothetical alloy
> forming the more stable O2?
>
> It has been my experience that the addition of a small amount of H2O2 to
a
> yellow batch will clear the color from the batch [sometimes to a very
> faint metallic blue tinge if the CS was initially a faint or pale
> yellow..at over 25PPM] I added 8 drops of H2O2 to the 26+ PPM 750ml half
> batch placed near the kitchen window which went deep yellow overnight [the
> other half stored away from cold temperatures is still colorless and
> crystal clear in diffused light] and the color cleared up in about 5 days
> but it is incredibly murky like smoke in a bottle with a massive TE.
> Nothing has settled out. In fact, it looks more like an emulsion than a
> suspension with a "thickness" or viscosity like quality to it that's
> different than water. The PPM as measured with a Dist 1 dropped from 17 to
6.
>
> I have found that fresh heavily ozonated water will sometimes tend to
make
> an initially yellow CS [that is, yellow now, not turning yellow
> later..though it may or may not turn 'more' yellow later on] whereas the
> same water after having been 'vented' for several days does not [left
> loosely capped while bubbles form on the sides of the DW jug] ...all other
> factors being as identical as possible.
>
> Using a high current to electrode surface area ratio makes yellow CS.
> Could it be that oxygen production from the electrode is faster than the
> oxidation rate of that electrode and excess oxygen is 'alloying' with the
> silver crystals as they form from ions?
> Stirring increases the amount of current that can be used and still not
> make yellow CS. Does stirring not only hydrate and isolate ion clusters
> from each other, but also, in effect, increase electrode surface area by
> disrupting a reactive boundary layer? ..and what is there for the silver
to
> react with, but oxygen?
>
> I also find it interesting that crystal clear [colorless but strong] CS
> appears blackish when placed in a milk jug type DW water container while
> DW in the same type jug right next to it has no tint to it at all. [as
> viewed through the container]
>
> ..and..CS that dries on a white surface will stain that surface brown.
> Ken
>
> At 10:55 AM 6/18/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >I have wondered that as well. My suspicion is the particle shape. I
suspect
> >that the mezo may have dense spherical particle, and the cs that is
formed by
> >normal electrolysis methods may be more snow flake shaped. The
resonances
> of a
> >particle will be consistant with the bulk of the metal, which would be
much
> >larger on a spherical particle than on a snowflake, although the
> dimensions of
> >the snowflake could be much larger, whereas the snowflake is made up of
many
> >small particles aggregated together, it's resonance would be more
> consistant with
> >the smaller particles that make the snowflake up..
> >
> >Marshall
> >
> >Ode Coyote wrote:
> >
> >> I don't believe this to be entirely true.
> >> One can make a completely colorless batch of CS using LVDC that has a
very
> >> bright tyndal effect seen with a laser pointer and read 10 - 16 PPM
with a
> >> meter.
> >> Ions are too small to be lit up by laser light.
> >> Meters don't detect particles.
> >> Lab testing will reveal 25 to 50 PPM total silver content.
> >> I've seen slow run and stirred batches go as high as a 50% ion to
> >> particlulate ratio and still have no color.
> >> I don't know what makes Mesosilver so special so I won't dispute that,
> >> but, in LVDC home brew land, color is an indication of particle size.
My
> >> brown tea went down the drain and this boy went back to the drawing
board.
> >> Unless some care is taken, the particles will not all be the same
size.
> >> Pale yellows and high PPM will indicate the presence of a few larger
> >> particles along with many smaller colorless particles.
> >>
> >> It's been my experience that no two labs return the same results when
it
> >> comes to CS. I've seen error ranges up to +/- 50%
> >> Apparently CS doesn't work like anything else when tested by
instruments
> >> designed to test other substances.
> >> Ken
> >>
> >> At 02:57 PM 6/17/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >> >If it is clear, it is ionic silver, not colloidal silver. Mesosilver
is
> the
> >> >only brown colored silver colloid with nanometer sized particles.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >frank key
> >> >
> >> >----- Original Message -----
> >> >From: [email protected]
> >> >To: [email protected]
> >> >Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 1:35 PM
> >> >Subject: CS>colloidal color
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >Hello,
> >> >I just switched my subscription to this new e-mail so I will have all
> of my
> >> >silver info in one place.
> >> >Does anyone have opinions on color? Some companies say only the
brown
> >> >silver is good,and others say only the totally clear is good and to
NEVER take the brown
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