That is a cultural problem. We spend years getting into bad health and then
expect an immediate cure. My belief concerning cs is that a continual dosage
of any amount will bring about gradual changes that we may not even
recognize. I tell people, you will probably not see a "be healed in the Name
of Jesus" miracle event (then again you might), but if you pay attention you
will probably see many changes that are seemingly unrelated to the cs.

John
  -----Original Message-----
  From: MARIANO DELISE [mailto:[email protected]]
  Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 9:30 PM
  To: [email protected]
  Subject: Re: CS>Shingles; was Listowner/need imfo 7 must unsub.


  My 76 year old neighbor has shingles over 8 years ago.  Obviously the
excruciating pain he has is the PHN.  over a year ago he saw my improvement
with CS(not for shingles)and he bagan to drink 1 oz of CS per day.  He
didn't notice any difference for over three months.  He was feeling
generally better, but the pain was still unbearable.  Then VERY SLOWLY he
bagan to feel better.  The pain VERY GRADUALLY began to lessen.  In fact, it
was his wife who pointed out to him the things he was doing that he could
not do for over 7years.  After six months he bagan to use it topically on
the painful spots.  I can only stress, it was over a period of a year that
he VERY SLOWLY improved.  He practically kisses my feet whenever I see him,
he is the most peppy, happy, active 76 year old I know.  Most of the men I
know cannot keepup with him, now.  PATIENCE AND CONSISTANCY are the key.
  Nancy
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: [email protected]
    To: [email protected]
    Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 5:13 AM
    Subject: Re: CS>Shingles; was Listowner/need imfo 7 must unsub.


    There is such confusion on this subject that I would like to comment.

    The pain is caused by the virus damaging the nerve connections
specifically the nerve endings, Killing the virus doesn't eliminate the pain
it has caused. Killing the virus only prevents it from causing further nerve
damage and therefore pain.

    Altho the virus remains in the system (for life) it becomes dormant
again......until the next time. Ultimately, the body itself must repair the
damage.

    So, if the virus is dormant, how is the CS going to eliminate the pain.
The pain is not a virus. The pain is not a bacteria.

    I make and use CS myself. It certainly has it's uses and limitations.
But it's absurd for what some use it for.

    Pain from the rash is not nerve damage and can be eliminated or
alleviated by topical treatment.
    I would say this is what the plant sap does. I would definitely say it
will not repair or restore nerve damage. If it does, I will move heaven and
earth to get it.

    Most shingles last about 5 weeks. Longer than that would be the PHN
(post herpetic Neuraligia) stage which may last for years. Currently
UCSFMC(University of California San Francisco Medical Center) is actively
researching this.

    If shingles are treated very early, 2 weeks or less, steroids and anti
virus medication is usually  effective.

    Pain is the primary consideration for the treatment shingles. I was
considering a nerve block.

    In the 6 months that I've had this affliction nothing conventional or
alternative that I've tried has worked.

    Except a visiting monk to whomI was introduced. While we talked he was
sending out energy. All the pain was gone. I was elated. I was cured.
However, 2 hrs after I got home, the pain came back.

    I had one more session with him before he left town. Again the pain was
gone.....and came back again. I would like to think that if I had more time
with him he might have been able to effect a cure.

    I'm tired and have written more than I should.

    Waddle


    In a message dated 07/11/2002 9:55:50 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
[email protected] writes:



      I think the article states otherwise: "The microbiologist says the sap
works by
      permeating the nervous system cells to kill the herpes zoster virus
eradicating
      the pain, and any possibility of recurrence." This tells me it
eliminates the
      virus from the NS.

      Roman

      "James Osbourne, Holmes" wrote:

      > Comment:
      >
      > The virus remains in the nervous system and will recurr.  My reading
of the
      > post indicates it heales the lesion; does not remove the virus from
the
      > body.  I hope I am wrong.
      >
      > James-Osbourne: Holmes
      >