Greetings, all:

I wanted to comment here, as I've seen some innacurate information regarding
silver toxicity of late...

First, the word "silver toxicity" can be ambigious.  Any reference to 3.8
grams DAILY being toxic must refer to a daily dose.

There are two different types of silver toxicity: Cosmetic Argyria and
non-cosmetic argyria, although the idea of non-cosmetic argyria isn't
predominant these days because, to my knowledge, there hasn't been a case
since about the 1930's.  Non-cosmetic argyria is the result of massive
amounts of silver delivered into the body, in some type of soluble form,
such as silver nitrate injections.  Symptoms of this type of silver
poisoining include organ and nuerological damage, up to death via
respiratory failure.  This type of silver poisoning occured because
"desperate" doses of silver were used to treat very severe forms of immune
system based disease in late stages.  References to such conditions can be
found via the old style materia medicas.

This is certainly not a real concern with modern colloidal silver.  However,
it is very erroneous to make the mistake that if one consumes 2 grams of
silver daily, one would ok, soley based on the fact that a single toxic dose
of silver was measured by one university at 3.8 grams.

Silver toxicity is gauged by total silver buildup in the body.  Cosmetic
Argyria occurs, generally speaking, when a minimum of 4 grams of total
silver is consumed... over a lifetime.

Mistakes like this, coupled with improper production of colloidal silver can
lead to surprises years down the road, such as the recent lady who consumed
massive amounts of improperly made colloidal silver ( via the salting
method ) for five years.  She was told similiar things:  Making colloidal
silver with salt is ok...  You'd die from a water overdose before you'd
develop argyria.  There are hundreds if not thousands of people out there
doing the same thing with lesser levels of daily doses.  Their risk is no
less, the manifestation will only take longer... when total silver intake
reaches between about 4 grams and 9 grams of silver.  Even so, not all of
these people will develop the condition.  The variables for the risk of
argyria are not completely known.  The fact that they exist has been well
documented via studies done with large doses of silver compounds.

There really is no need to skew the issue at all.  Properly made colloidal
silver @ 5-10ppm can be consumed, daily, in amounts of 4-8 ounces, over a
lifetime with no normal risk.  For the majority of people, greater doses
could be consumed with no risk.  The problem comes in when people take
several different half-truths and throw them together, thus ending up with a
confused disaster.  The type of people who get caught in this scenario
usually aren't the ones who make it habit of frequenting lists like these...
They catch things in passing from those who are sincere in their confidence
but either haven't taken the time to read the research fully, or simply
believe that every government-accepted study must be a conspiracy...  or
they simply assume that those who hear their words are knowledgable enough
to apply the ideas in context.

To reference:

http://www.silvermedicine.org/safety.html
The EPA's risk assessment

http://www.silvermedicine.org/whosilvercompoundtoxicity.html
The World Health Organization's food additives summary on silver

On a non-related note, I've been seeing the idea float around that the
placebo effect does not apply with animals.  This is markedly untrue.  The
placebo effect with pets works differently than with people, because the
actual effect is directly related with emotional intelligence.  Animals do
not recieve the idea that a substances given to them can cure, because there
is no language to communicate this idea.  However, animals are very astute,
and they can easily pick up positive attitudes from their human partners...
In this case, the cure by belief phenominon is equally expressive.
Therefore, in a laboratory setting it is likely true that the placebo effect
will not manifest in animals, but in a home setting it very well could.  The
only variable here is one of language and methods to communicate the
strength of feelings and belief.

Kind Regards,

Jason





Subject: RE: CS>Re: Unsupported denials - not claims


> According to a comprehensive research project done by a John Hopkins PhD,
> the toxic dose of silver for a 150K person is 3.8 GRAMS/day.  Not
> Milligrams.
>


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