There is still an element or two missing. The elimination rate meeds to be figured in. So, is that 4 grams 'consumed' or 4 grams 'retained' over a lifetime? With elimination rates at something like 94% in 24 hrs..and that rate drived from doses of inhaled dust, it might take several pounds of silver over a 'long' lifetime to retain 4 grams. Researchers attempting to deliberately induce argyria were mainly frustrated even at extremely high, near toxic doseages of silver compounds with the vast majority of subjects refusing to turn blue. Apparently, susceptibility is very low. I'd venture to say that Rosemary the blue is an exception rather than the rule. What about the probable thousands of others who did the same thing but DID NOT develop argyria. Only ONE case out of a single given accepted practice that how many participated in?
Maybe 40,000 people a year die by automobile interactions in the USA, but hundreds of millions don't, yet cover billions of miles a month in automobiles. Now, what's the actual risk factor? I myself have driven well over a million miles, half a million in a big rig, and never so much as scratched anyone yet. Ken At 11:35 PM 7/25/02 -0700, you wrote: >Greetings, all: > >I wanted to comment here, as I've seen some innacurate information regarding >silver toxicity of late... > >First, the word "silver toxicity" can be ambigious. Any reference to 3.8 >grams DAILY being toxic must refer to a daily dose. > >There are two different types of silver toxicity: Cosmetic Argyria and >non-cosmetic argyria, although the idea of non-cosmetic argyria isn't >predominant these days because, to my knowledge, there hasn't been a case >since about the 1930's. Non-cosmetic argyria is the result of massive >amounts of silver delivered into the body, in some type of soluble form, >such as silver nitrate injections. Symptoms of this type of silver >poisoining include organ and nuerological damage, up to death via >respiratory failure. This type of silver poisoning occured because >"desperate" doses of silver were used to treat very severe forms of immune >system based disease in late stages. References to such conditions can be >found via the old style materia medicas. > >This is certainly not a real concern with modern colloidal silver. However, >it is very erroneous to make the mistake that if one consumes 2 grams of >silver daily, one would ok, soley based on the fact that a single toxic dose >of silver was measured by one university at 3.8 grams. > >Silver toxicity is gauged by total silver buildup in the body. Cosmetic >Argyria occurs, generally speaking, when a minimum of 4 grams of total >silver is consumed... over a lifetime. > >Mistakes like this, coupled with improper production of colloidal silver can >lead to surprises years down the road, such as the recent lady who consumed >massive amounts of improperly made colloidal silver ( via the salting >method ) for five years. She was told similiar things: Making colloidal >silver with salt is ok... You'd die from a water overdose before you'd >develop argyria. There are hundreds if not thousands of people out there >doing the same thing with lesser levels of daily doses. Their risk is no >less, the manifestation will only take longer... when total silver intake >reaches between about 4 grams and 9 grams of silver. Even so, not all of >these people will develop the condition. The variables for the risk of >argyria are not completely known. The fact that they exist has been well >documented via studies done with large doses of silver compounds. > >There really is no need to skew the issue at all. Properly made colloidal >silver @ 5-10ppm can be consumed, daily, in amounts of 4-8 ounces, over a >lifetime with no normal risk. For the majority of people, greater doses >could be consumed with no risk. The problem comes in when people take >several different half-truths and throw them together, thus ending up with a >confused disaster. The type of people who get caught in this scenario >usually aren't the ones who make it habit of frequenting lists like these... >They catch things in passing from those who are sincere in their confidence >but either haven't taken the time to read the research fully, or simply >believe that every government-accepted study must be a conspiracy... or >they simply assume that those who hear their words are knowledgable enough >to apply the ideas in context. > >To reference: > >http://www.silvermedicine.org/safety.html >The EPA's risk assessment > >http://www.silvermedicine.org/whosilvercompoundtoxicity.html >The World Health Organization's food additives summary on silver > >On a non-related note, I've been seeing the idea float around that the >placebo effect does not apply with animals. This is markedly untrue. The >placebo effect with pets works differently than with people, because the >actual effect is directly related with emotional intelligence. Animals do >not recieve the idea that a substances given to them can cure, because there >is no language to communicate this idea. However, animals are very astute, >and they can easily pick up positive attitudes from their human partners... >In this case, the cure by belief phenominon is equally expressive. >Therefore, in a laboratory setting it is likely true that the placebo effect >will not manifest in animals, but in a home setting it very well could. The >only variable here is one of language and methods to communicate the >strength of feelings and belief. > >Kind Regards, > >Jason > > > > > >Subject: RE: CS>Re: Unsupported denials - not claims > > >> According to a comprehensive research project done by a John Hopkins PhD, >> the toxic dose of silver for a 150K person is 3.8 GRAMS/day. Not >> Milligrams. >> > > >-- >The silver-list is a moderated forum for discussion of colloidal silver. > >Instructions for unsubscribing may be found at: http://silverlist.org > >To post, address your message to: [email protected] > >Silver-list archive: http://escribe.com/health/thesilverlist/index.html > >List maintainer: Mike Devour <[email protected]> > >
