Hi Marshall,

I think he was even able to influence plants on the far side of the country
too with brainwaves.  It's been so long since I read it but that still
sticks with me unless my mind made it up.  At the time I had just turned
vegetarian.  At least killing veggies didn't bother me as much as killing
critters.  The critters could watch you do it.  The plants didn't try to run
away.

Trem

----- Original Message -----
From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 12:01 PM
Subject: Re: CS>Unsupported denials & claims-Placebo effect


> Cleve Backseter, in the early 70's discovered that plants react to thought
when
> he was a polygraph expert with the FBI.  Published a book by the name of
"The
> Secret Life of Plants".  Proved that even double blind studies can be
flawed
> because even simple plants would react to events in the other room, even
if the
> experimenters did not know what was going on in the other room, and would
react
> to the experimenters thoughts.
>
> Marshall
>
> Barbara Liles wrote:
>
> > What is the Backster effect?
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Marshall Dudley <[email protected]>
> > To: <[email protected]>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 11:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: CS>Unsupported denials & claims-Placebo effect
> >
> > > I think that the Backster effect shows that even in lab surroundings,
you
> > really
> > > can't be sure.  Since it can occur with plants, it might with animals
as
> > well.
> > >
> > > Marshall
> > >
> > > [email protected] wrote:
> > >
> > > > > On a non-related note, I've been seeing the idea float around that
the
> > > > > placebo effect does not apply with animals.  This is markedly
> > untrue...in a
> > > > >
> > > > > laboratory setting it is likely true that the placebo effect
> > > > > will not manifest in animals, but in a home setting it very well
> > could.
> > > > >
> > > > (Digest V102 #508)
> > > > Now THERE'S theoretical proof; markedly to likely to could.
> > > > jr
> > > >
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