On that note, fruits  are made attractive to eat because that's part of
the reproducive cycle they depend on for species survival. Many plants will
do the equivalent of throwing them to you.  You deliver and provide
fertilizer for their babies.
..and then we invent septic tanks.
Ken

At 12:28 PM 7/28/02 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi Marshall,
>
>I think he was even able to influence plants on the far side of the country
>too with brainwaves.  It's been so long since I read it but that still
>sticks with me unless my mind made it up.  At the time I had just turned
>vegetarian.  At least killing veggies didn't bother me as much as killing
>critters.  The critters could watch you do it.  The plants didn't try to run
>away.
>
>Trem
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Marshall Dudley" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 12:01 PM
>Subject: Re: CS>Unsupported denials & claims-Placebo effect
>
>
>> Cleve Backseter, in the early 70's discovered that plants react to thought
>when
>> he was a polygraph expert with the FBI.  Published a book by the name of
>"The
>> Secret Life of Plants".  Proved that even double blind studies can be
>flawed
>> because even simple plants would react to events in the other room, even
>if the
>> experimenters did not know what was going on in the other room, and would
>react
>> to the experimenters thoughts.
>>
>> Marshall
>>
>> Barbara Liles wrote:
>>
>> > What is the Backster effect?
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: Marshall Dudley <[email protected]>
>> > To: <[email protected]>
>> > Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 11:12 PM
>> > Subject: Re: CS>Unsupported denials & claims-Placebo effect
>> >
>> > > I think that the Backster effect shows that even in lab surroundings,
>you
>> > really
>> > > can't be sure.  Since it can occur with plants, it might with animals
>as
>> > well.
>> > >
>> > > Marshall
>> > >
>> > > [email protected] wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > > On a non-related note, I've been seeing the idea float around that
>the
>> > > > > placebo effect does not apply with animals.  This is markedly
>> > untrue...in a
>> > > > >
>> > > > > laboratory setting it is likely true that the placebo effect
>> > > > > will not manifest in animals, but in a home setting it very well
>> > could.
>> > > > >
>> > > > (Digest V102 #508)
>> > > > Now THERE'S theoretical proof; markedly to likely to could.
>> > > > jr
>> > > >
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